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Rudy@tirerack

31st March 2008, 16:48

Guys,

I need some help for all of you who are shopping for tires. I have seen a lot of post that read something like this.

Getting new tires which is best? Or Is Blank a good tire?

While these are good questions it may get an answer like this:

The Bridgestone RE-01R are the best tire ever made.

My point is the Bridgestone RE-01R is a great tire for a VERY aggressive driver or some one who autocrosses but still wants to run a streetable tire.

With that said its NOT the right tire for every one. It depends on YOUR needs. Also keep in mind that most people like the tire they have now so they recommend that tire.

It would help a ton if you listed a couple of your basic needs. Some of you are doing this now. Example:

I am looking for new tires for miata. I would like something that has good wet traction, lasts a bout 40,000 miles and is fairly quiet. Let us know what your replacing. Also mention what you liked or disliked about that tire. You should also list the price range you would like to be within. I would also recommend listing your tire size.

This will help everyone to make a Good tire recommendation for your needs.

BassfreakBRG

31st March 2008, 17:37

So, kinda like my post that has not had many replies?

:)

Rudy@tirerack

31st March 2008, 17:42

So, kinda like my post that has not had many replies?

:)

Exactly!! You did a great job, but did you list your size. Its hard for me to see what available with out that? ;)

mseawell

1st April 2008, 16:38

Guys,

I need some help for all of you who are shopping for tires. I have seen a lot of post that read something like this.

Getting new tires which is best? Or Is Blank a good tire?

While these are good questions it may get an answer like this:

The Bridgestone RE-01R are the best tire ever made.

My point is the Bridgestone RE-01R is a great tire for a VERY aggressive driver or some one who autocrosses but still wants to run a streetable tire.

With that said its NOT the right tire for every one. It depends on YOUR needs. Also keep in mind that most people like the tire they have now so they recommend that tire.

It would help a ton if you listed a couple of your basic needs. Some of you are doing this now. Example:

I am looking for new tires for miata. I would like something that has good wet traction, lasts a bout 40,000 miles and is fairly quiet. Let us know what your replacing. Also mention what you liked or disliked about that tire. You should also list the price range you would like to be within. I would also recommend listing your tire size.

This will help everyone to make a Good tire recommendation for your needs.

Ok Rudy, I'll take a crack at it. I have a '93 Miata with Chrome Chaparral 15X7 wheels with 205/50R15 Hankook K106's. I got the Caparrals and the Hankook's in August of '07 and have about 11,000 miles on them. Today I took the car back to the tire shop to have them re-balanced and/or for advice as to what I need to do to get rid of the bounce/vibration, especially above 60 mph. This is the fourth time I've taken them back. Well, they had no suggestions other than to change the tires. These tires are also what I would consider fairly noisy. I do like the way the car corners with this combination, other than that I not very please with the Hankook's. I use my Miata mainly as a commuter of about 400 miles per week. I have no plans to track or autocross but do enjoy the curvy back roads on my commute. I also want to be able to drive 65 - 75 on the interstate and not be shaking. :) I'm willing to live with a 20K mile tire if necessary to get a smooth, quiet ride with good back road handling. I'd be willing to pay $400 - $500 for a set of 4.
Oh, we get very little snow here in central North Carolina but I don't want to worry about hydroplanning on wet roads. Hope I covered everything.

Thanks

Rudy@tirerack

1st April 2008, 17:42

Ok Rudy, I'll take a crack at it. I have a '93 Miata with Chrome Chaparral 15X7 wheels with 205/50R15 Hankook K106's. I got the Caparrals and the Hankook's in August of '07 and have about 11,000 miles on them. Today I took the car back to the tire shop to have them re-balanced and/or for advice as to what I need to do to get rid of the bounce/vibration, especially above 60 mph. This is the fourth time I've taken them back. Well, they had no suggestions other than to change the tires. These tires are also what I would consider fairly noisy. I do like the way the car corners with this combination, other than that I not very please with the Hankook's. I use my Miata mainly as a commuter of about 400 miles per week. I have no plans to track or autocross but do enjoy the curvy back roads on my commute. I also want to be able to drive 65 - 75 on the interstate and not be shaking. :) I'm willing to live with a 20K mile tire if necessary to get a smooth, quiet ride with good back road handling. I'd be willing to pay $400 - $500 for a set of 4.
Oh, we get very little snow here in central North Carolina but I don't want to worry about hydroplanning on wet roads. Hope I covered everything.

Thanks

Take a look at this new tire by BF Goodrich.

BF Goodrich Super Sport AS. This is an Ultra High performance All Season Tire.

It offers excellent wet and dry grip and maintains a smooth quiet ride for a high performance tire. These run $86 each. This is their latest technology and a strong performer. Nice job on describing your tire needs!! :cool:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+Super+Sport+A%2FS

elbee

1st April 2008, 17:49

I had a Tire Rack sales rep talk me into a set of GS-D3s when I had my eyes on some Yokes. What is it with this tire? It is being pushed on everyone like a GEICO policy. Tire test results? Don't interest me. I didn't like it at all. No feel or personality and my first ever bubbled sidewalls. Yes two. And a tread pattern that holds pebbles perfectly so it sounds like the car is perpetually tap dancing. It's not all about wet or dry grip--ANY of the max offerings will give you that. Tread wear? Just stay off the brakes. I want some true feel. I like Pirellis and Michelins and Yokes. But they are the most expensive. Even Dunlops give you a nice sharp, linear and up on your toes feel while cornering.

Rudy@tirerack

1st April 2008, 18:07

I had a Tire Rack sales rep talk me into a set of GS-D3s when I had my eyes on some Yokes. What is it with this tire? It is being pushed on everyone like a GEICO policy. Tire test results? Don't interest me. I didn't like it at all. No feel or personality and my first ever bubbled sidewalls. Yes two. And a tread pattern that holds pebbles perfectly so it sounds like the car is perpetually tap dancing. It's not all about wet or dry grip--ANY of the max offerings will give you that. Tread wear? Just stay off the brakes. I want some true feel. I like Pirellis and Michelins and Yokes. But they are the most expensive. Even Dunlops give you a nice sharp, linear and up on your toes feel while cornering.

I am sorry to hear you were pushed into a tire you did not want. Most of our customers have been very happy with the GS-D3 and I personally like the tire a lot. It rated # 1 in a car and driver test and a European Magazine test. The car and driver test is on our website. I try very hard to ask a lot of questions to help the customer into a good tire for their needs.

This does not make you wrong. Sometimes tires are like that and different drivers feel different things. We test tires at the Tire Rack there is never 100% agreement on tires. People have different opinions. It just sounds like we just got it wrong this time for you. Hopefully I can help you in the future and get you into a tire you like much better.

elbee

1st April 2008, 18:29

This is the fourth time I've taken them back. Well, they had no suggestions other than to change the tires. These tires are also what I would consider fairly noisy. I not very please with the Hankook's.

You get what you pay for. Cheap tires are notorious for being noisy, non-linear, the list goes on. I'd stay away from Korean and domestic tires. Go Europe--or Japan. :)

Racing_Green

1st April 2008, 19:01

Rudy, good call! Yes a well focused question always leads to better answers and better service. Part of the joy of owning a nice sportscar is learning what goes into it.

Double O 86

1st April 2008, 19:08

Okay, Rudy, here's one for ya:

I need a tire that has the best wet traction. Nothing else matters. Imagine that I'm only going to drive in the pouring rain.

The size should be 225/50-16 (this is for my BMW 328i).

Rudy@tirerack

1st April 2008, 19:23

You asked the question and this is honest answer:

The Goodyear EAGLE F1 GS-D3 is by a considerable margin the best wet weather tire I have ever driven on. I do not think anything is better.

and no I am not pushing this tire, but it is the best in the wet! :wave:

mseawell

1st April 2008, 19:37

Thanks Rudy

EGAN

1st April 2008, 19:38

Okay I'll play but its for my Saab 92X.

1. Size 205 55 16
2. Stock everything - suspension, wheels, brakes.
3. Car is a daily driver for here in NH, and gets about 25k miles per year. Gets driven in all weather conditions.
4. I drive aggressively but do no track or autocross
5. Order of priority is quiet, grip, long life.
6. Currently have the Bridgestone Potenza RE92As - not happy with grip or noise ever with these.
7. Budget is important - would like to stay $100 per tire or less.

elbee

1st April 2008, 19:44

Okay I'll play but its for my Saab 92X.

1. Size 205 55 16
2. Stock everything - suspension, wheels, brakes.
3. Car is a daily driver for here in NH, and gets about 25k miles per year. Gets driven in all weather conditions.
4. I drive aggressively but do no track or autocross
5. Order of priority is quiet, grip, long life.
6. Currently have the Bridgestone Potenza RE92As - not happy with grip or noise ever with these.
7. Budget is important - would like to stay $100 per tire or less.

Allow me to step in here Rudy--I won't step on your toes from here on out. :D

The Dunlop Sport Maxx.

Rudy@tirerack

1st April 2008, 19:56

Allow me to step in here Rudy--I won't step on your toes from here on out. :D

The Dunlop Sport Maxx.

Awww man! I hate it when that happens. :cry:

This probably would have been a good choice but needs to be able to be driven in all weather conditions. I am assuming this includes snow.

EGAN - Check out a Continental Extreme Contact for $80 each has been a very solid Ultra High Performance All season tire. Just $80 each.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ContiExtremeContact

EGAN

1st April 2008, 20:19

I had those on my VW Passat and wasn't particularly happy with them - they wore out quickly, and got really noisy after about 10k miles. This may have been in part that Passats are notorious for have alignment issues (rear toe especially).

I will drive them in all conditions but snow traction isn't a huge issue - sure it snowed a ton this year, but most years its only about 10-15 days per year that I have to worry about it. I'd put deep snow traction low on the list, but good wet traction is important.

What would you recommend if I increased my budget to $125 per tire, and would you pick the more expensive tire based on value over the less expensive one?

elbee

1st April 2008, 20:40

I had those on my VW Passat and wasn't particularly happy with them - they wore out quickly, and got really noisy after about 10k miles.

:rofl: So much for the experts at the Tire Rack, eh? If the only reason you didn't like a set of tires is because they didn't last long enough or got noisy after 10K I'd be willing to bet the following:

you didnt rotate every 5-8K
you didnt keep tabs on pressures
you didn't keep the car aligned
youre on the brakes way too much
your shocks are kaput
this is a cheap tire

If you want a tire you'll be happy with give me a PM.

Dward

1st April 2008, 21:30

Ok Rudy, I'll take a crack at it. I have a '93 Miata with Chrome Chaparral 15X7 wheels with 205/50R15 Hankook K106's. I got the Caparrals and the Hankook's in August of '07 and have about 11,000 miles on them. Today I took the car back to the tire shop to have them re-balanced and/or for advice as to what I need to do to get rid of the bounce/vibration, especially above 60 mph. This is the fourth time I've taken them back. Well, they had no suggestions other than to change the tires. These tires are also what I would consider fairly noisy. I do like the way the car corners with this combination, other than that I not very please with the Hankook's. I use my Miata mainly as a commuter of about 400 miles per week. I have no plans to track or autocross but do enjoy the curvy back roads on my commute. I also want to be able to drive 65 - 75 on the interstate and not be shaking. :) I'm willing to live with a 20K mile tire if necessary to get a smooth, quiet ride with good back road handling. I'd be willing to pay $400 - $500 for a set of 4.
Oh, we get very little snow here in central North Carolina but I don't want to worry about hydroplanning on wet roads. Hope I covered everything.

Thanks

Rudy,
What he said, but still using the stock 14 " wheel on a '94 Miata....?

Thanks
D

Buffalo

1st April 2008, 22:50

Rudy,

Any opinion yet on the Bridgestone RE 760 Sports in 205/45/16's?

We get a lot of rain up here in Humboldt Co. Also, many of our favorite roads are a bit rough. Hence, the Toyos. The car, (see below) is primarily driven in town but once to twice a month is driven hard on some of our favorite roads such as Highway 36 between Alton and Red Bluff. Will not be autocrossed or tracked at all. Can't justify a set of RE 010R's, but do want a very good handling tire in dry conditions at a reasonable price.

Cheers - Bill

EGAN

2nd April 2008, 00:01

:rofl: So much for the experts at the Tire Rack, eh? If the only reason you didn't like a set of tires is because they didn't last long enough or got noisy after 10K I'd be willing to bet the following:

you didnt rotate every 5-8K
you didnt keep tabs on pressures
you didn't keep the car aligned
youre on the brakes way too much
your shocks are kaput
this is a cheap tire

If you want a tire you'll be happy with give me a PM.

Well let me see -

I did rotate tires every 7k miles (every other oil change)
I did keep tabs on my pressures - I'm anal that way
Alignments on Passats that are lowered are particularly tough - the rear has no way to adjust for toe except to move the subframe (already stated in an earlier post)
On the brakes too much? Uh, nope just when I needed to stop. On the throttle too much is more likely.
Shocks were changed often (see comment about lowering)
It is a cheap tire.

Rudy@tirerack

2nd April 2008, 10:19

I had those on my VW Passat and wasn't particularly happy with them - they wore out quickly, and got really noisy after about 10k miles. This may have been in part that Passats are notorious for have alignment issues (rear toe especially).

I will drive them in all conditions but snow traction isn't a huge issue - sure it snowed a ton this year, but most years its only about 10-15 days per year that I have to worry about it. I'd put deep snow traction low on the list, but good wet traction is important.

What would you recommend if I increased my budget to $125 per tire, and would you pick the more expensive tire based on value over the less expensive one?

Take a look at the Bridgestone Potenza RE960 AS pole position.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position

I do not have the full detail, but this tire will have a rebate starting April 13th.

Reuben Howden

2nd April 2008, 10:32

You get what you pay for. Cheap tires are notorious for being noisy, non-linear, the list goes on. :)

Falken Azenis are cheap and awesome...OK so they used to get a bit noisey, although I have not had this problem with the RT-615. Not that I care much.

Azenis is all I buy for my Miata. I drive the snot out of it 70 miles a day. I get the 195/60/14 size for my Volk CE28N rims and love'm. I get about 17k miles from a set (lots of highway) and at $60 each from Vulcan, it's a good deal all round. The Tire Rack doesn't sell Azenis so I don't buy from them.

Rudy@tirerack

2nd April 2008, 10:33

Rudy,

Any opinion yet on the Bridgestone RE 760 Sports in 205/45/16's?

We get a lot of rain up here in Humboldt Co. Also, many of our favorite roads are a bit rough. Hence, the Toyos. The car, (see below) is primarily driven in town but once to twice a month is driven hard on some of our favorite roads such as Highway 36 between Alton and Red Bluff. Will not be autocrossed or tracked at all. Can't justify a set of RE 010R's, but do want a very good handling tire in dry conditions at a reasonable price.

Cheers - Bill

Hey Bill,

I have not had a chance to drive on the new RE 760 Sport. Bridgestone is telling us that the tire will be an improvement over the RE 750 it is replacing. I think it will be a great tire. Also Bridgestone will have a rebate starting mid April. If it was me I would not hesitate to get this tire.

Buffalo

2nd April 2008, 10:46

Thanks Rudy,

This is sounding like a pretty good option for my needs. And with the rebate/gift card starting in mid April sounds like it is getting close to the time to buy.

Cheers - Bill

Tahoe Dave

2nd April 2008, 11:27

Ok Rudy, here is my shot at it:

Have a new MX-5 Touring with 205/45-17 Bridgestone Potenza which work fine for me when it is dry. UPH Summer tire. But they seem to have one of the lower wear ratings and would like something a bit better without sacrificing grip. Also not sure about how they would perform in the wet. But, with our expected annual use of around 5,000 miles means wear is not a deal killer.

We live where there can be cold mornings, below freezing but warm days. Our driving is recreational, meaning fair weather but we may be caught in rain or even light snow so need a tire that won’t hydroplane. Been there done that. :eek:

We avoid freeways as much as possible and stick to the back roads. When we must travel freeways it can be doing around 70 just to keep up. We are no longer spirited drivers but just like to have fun on the twisty roads and cruise along with the top down.

From what I’ve read on your web site it appears the Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 will do what we want with a shade more ride comfort. The Goodyear Eagle FRGS-D3 was my next choice. Is it worth considering the Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S and would I be giving up anything? When I first started reading reviews it was my first choice but now am a bit confused. I went back to the Michelin because over the years I have had very good results with their tires.

I would also consider moving up to a 215/45 from a 205/45 if there would be any benefit in ride quality, handling or grip.

As an aside, I thought you had a store in Sparks NV that mounted tires. Not so?

Rudy@tirerack

2nd April 2008, 12:01

Rudy,
What he said, but still using the stock 14 " wheel on a '94 Miata....?

Thanks
D

Take a look at the Bridgestone Ponteza RE960AS pole position. Very smooth and quite with very good handling.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position

Rudy@tirerack

2nd April 2008, 12:07

Ok Rudy, here is my shot at it:

Have a new MX-5 Touring with 205/45-17 Bridgestone Potenza which work fine for me when it is dry. UPH Summer tire. But they seem to have one of the lower wear ratings and would like something a bit better without sacrificing grip. Also not sure about how they would perform in the wet. But, with our expected annual use of around 5,000 miles means wear is not a deal killer.

We live where there can be cold mornings, below freezing but warm days. Our driving is recreational, meaning fair weather but we may be caught in rain or even light snow so need a tire that won’t hydroplane. Been there done that. :eek:

We avoid freeways as much as possible and stick to the back roads. When we must travel freeways it can be doing around 70 just to keep up. We are no longer spirited drivers but just like to have fun on the twisty roads and cruise along with the top down.

From what I’ve read on your web site it appears the Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 will do what we want with a shade more ride comfort. The Goodyear Eagle FRGS-D3 was my next choice. Is it worth considering the Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S and would I be giving up anything? When I first started reading reviews it was my first choice but now am a bit confused. I went back to the Michelin because over the years I have had very good results with their tires.

I would also consider moving up to a 215/45 from a 205/45 if there would be any benefit in ride quality, handling or grip.

As an aside, I thought you had a store in Sparks NV that mounted tires. Not so?

I think you done a very good job with your research. If you want to stay with summer performance I agree the Michelin PE2 would be a great choice.

If your willing to give up just a little in dry road handling then the Goodyear Eagle F1 AS would work well. Its very quite and would give you some snow traction if you were caught in a light snow. Its also very good in the wet.

We do have a warehouse around Sparks. We can set up a pick up but they do not do retail installs. I can recommend someone in your area for installation. Please let me know if you would like me to set something up for you.

I-4

2nd April 2008, 12:33

For a daily driver in MA., used all seasons, snow, etc. I think the Continental Extreme Contact have been an excellent all season tire, used on my saturn sl2, 50k and I have about 10-15k more to go on my grocery getter. Best "HP all season" traction tire I have bought. Just now getting a little loud on the back, but others have been worse.

Tahoe Dave

2nd April 2008, 14:03

If your willing to give up just a little in dry road handling then the Goodyear Eagle F1 AS would work well. Its very quite and would give you some snow traction if you were caught in a light snow. Its also very good in the wet.

Thanks Rudy,

I am pretty sure I would not notice the difference in handling given the moderate way we now drive. (my days of going through a set of tires in six months or less is behind me) And although I don't intend to drive in snow it has been known to snow in July, or just about any month, here in the Sierra.

If I read the Tire Rack site correctly, the Goodyear A/S has a better wear rating which implys what - harder rubber so not quite as grippy? The review I read gives it top rating in its class.

It will be a while before I order tires, this is just advanced planning. I've purchased from Tire Rack before and was surprised to find them in my driveway the next day! :)

sonic-rs

4th April 2008, 00:09

Hi Rudy,
I am in the market for new wheels and tires probably 15x7 or 15x7.5 rims, I am looking for a tire that is responsive, lots of grip, good in the wet. My miata is only summer driven, no auto x's but may see a few lapping days. I do like to take the on ramps very quickly as well I do the local twisty runs. My miata has tein HA coilsovers and stock everything else. what do you recomend??

Rudy@tirerack

4th April 2008, 19:26

I would consider a 205/50R15 Hankook Ventus R-S2. Very sticky with good wet traction. :wave:

Lauren McDulls

6th April 2008, 00:41

Well why not..

I recently went to look at getting some new tires because all of my summer tires are cracking.

I have true snows for winter so I don't need all seasons. Rain will not be that common but it can rain pretty heavy where I am going to be (Bullfrog, Utah)

I'm going to be in a high heat environment (105 degrees is common). Road conditions are good though.

I have 205 45 16 (k1 racing rims) and currently have kumho supra estca which while I like last for about dill. I may get 15k miles out of them. And I was quoted $475 to get something similar at discount tire. Which is way out of my price range.

I need something in the $350-$400 - mounted if possible - price range.

Help !

Lauren McDulls

7th April 2008, 20:55

I don't mean to be pushy.. but if anyone has any ideas that would help. I HAVE to get tires within the week and I'm unsure if now I'll even be able to get something other than Kumhos that discount tire sells. I am about to leave for a 900 mile trip where I won't have easy access to tires for about.. oh.. 7 months.

Yeah..

HolyRunner

7th April 2008, 22:55

Another one for yah,
92 Miata with stock everything.

Currently the rear has Yokohama Avid H4s, roughly 2 1/2 years old with plenty of tread left. Front has some no name tires the previous owner put on, roughly 4 1/2 years old. Looking to just replace just the older no name tires this will only be my DD for another year. Later I'll make it more of a summer only car. I do like to have fun in the turns but at the same time I can't go with performance summer tires as I get a decent amount of snow and ice. Normally I work from home once the weather gets bad, but have to go out in it sometimes.

I thought about picking up another set of Avid H4s but open to any suggestions.

Rudy@tirerack

8th April 2008, 10:02

I don't mean to be pushy.. but if anyone has any ideas that would help. I HAVE to get tires within the week and I'm unsure if now I'll even be able to get something other than Kumhos that discount tire sells. I am about to leave for a 900 mile trip where I won't have easy access to tires for about.. oh.. 7 months.

Yeah..

Hello,

Sorry for my late reply. We have been slamed lately. I moderate 3 forums and take lots of customer calls emails ect. If you ever need a response right away give me a call at the Tire Rack.

Ok on with my suggestion. Take a look at the Sumitomo HTR Z 2 which are better than the old Kuhmo Supras. These are only $68 each. Give me a call and I can help you with an order.

Rudy@tirerack

8th April 2008, 10:03

Another one for yah,
92 Miata with stock everything.

Currently the rear has Yokohama Avid H4s, roughly 2 1/2 years old with plenty of tread left. Front has some no name tires the previous owner put on, roughly 4 1/2 years old. Looking to just replace just the older no name tires this will only be my DD for another year. Later I'll make it more of a summer only car. I do like to have fun in the turns but at the same time I can't go with performance summer tires as I get a decent amount of snow and ice. Normally I work from home once the weather gets bad, but have to go out in it sometimes.

I thought about picking up another set of Avid H4s but open to any suggestions.

Really its best for car performance when all 4 tires match. The Yokohama has been a very popular tire. Honestly I would pick up another pair of these.

Lauren McDulls

8th April 2008, 10:49

Hello,

Sorry for my late reply. We have been slamed lately. I moderate 3 forums and take lots of customer calls emails ect. If you ever need a response right away give me a call at the Tire Rack.

Ok on with my suggestion. Take a look at the Sumitomo HTR Z 2 which are better than the old Kuhmo Supras. These are only $68 each. Give me a call and I can help you with an order.

Hey Rudy

At this point it's just too late, I have to have them ON my car by friday, because I'll be gone gone after then.

Sorry about that. Thanks again though! I ordered my last set from tire rack and was happy!

Rudy@tirerack

8th April 2008, 11:14

Hey Rudy

At this point it's just too late, I have to have them ON my car by friday, because I'll be gone gone after then.

Sorry about that. Thanks again though! I ordered my last set from tire rack and was happy!

Not a problem. Glad your all set for your trip!

HolyRunner

8th April 2008, 21:55

Really its best for car performance when all 4 tires match. The Yokohama has been a very popular tire. Honestly I would pick up another pair of these.

Thanks for the response, I went ahead and picked up another pair.

Big M

9th April 2008, 15:24

Rudy, great idea for a thread here. I'd like to throw one out there, if you please.

I have winter tires, so would like to get dedicated summers to replace my 195/50/15 Goodyear Eagle GT's. I bought the car with them last year. The thread is on the low side, and the sides are pretty chewed up (previous owner autocrossed). They seem loud and squirrely on the highway, very poor in the rain, and lock up the brakes surprisingly easy. I realize they're quite old, though.

I'm looking to run my first autocross at the end of April and then buy new tires. Here are my priorities:
1) Great grip for auto-x, yet streetable
2) fuel economy (can that be predicted?)
3) road noise (I spend most of my time on the highway)
4) tread wear
5) rain performance (I drive like a granny in the rain no matter what, though)

I'd really like to keep it in the $250 - $300 range, so I know I'll have to compromise.
Off hand, I like the Yoko ES100, but I'm hearing mixed reviews on them.

Any input appreciated.

miata12321

9th April 2008, 16:28

Rudy, here's what I'm looking for:
1. Best handling street tire in the dry
2. As long as the tire works in the wet
3. 15-20K miles
4. 205/50/15 for my 15x7 wheels
5. GRIP, GRIP, GRIP

Rudy@tirerack

9th April 2008, 17:23

Rudy, great idea for a thread here. I'd like to throw one out there, if you please.

I have winter tires, so would like to get dedicated summers to replace my 195/50/15 Goodyear Eagle GT's. I bought the car with them last year. The thread is on the low side, and the sides are pretty chewed up (previous owner autocrossed). They seem loud and squirrely on the highway, very poor in the rain, and lock up the brakes surprisingly easy. I realize they're quite old, though.

I'm looking to run my first autocross at the end of April and then buy new tires. Here are my priorities:
1) Great grip for auto-x, yet streetable
2) fuel economy (can that be predicted?)
3) road noise (I spend most of my time on the highway)
4) tread wear
5) rain performance (I drive like a granny in the rain no matter what, though)

I'd really like to keep it in the $250 - $300 range, so I know I'll have to compromise.
Off hand, I like the Yoko ES100, but I'm hearing mixed reviews on them.

Any input appreciated.

Hello there. Keeping in mind that fuel economy really can not be predicted. I would go with the BF Goodrich G Force sport tire. These have much better grip and are quieter than the Yokos.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+Sport

Rudy@tirerack

9th April 2008, 17:26

Rudy, here's what I'm looking for:
1. Best handling street tire in the dry
2. As long as the tire works in the wet
3. 15-20K miles
4. 205/50/15 for my 15x7 wheels
5. GRIP, GRIP, GRIP

I think for you my magic 8 ball :D says Hankook Ventus R-S2!

miata12321

9th April 2008, 20:23

How would you compare the Hankook Ventus RS-2 with the Falken Azenis RT-615 and Bridgestone RE-01R in the ways of best dry cornering ability? That is what I'm really looking for.

stowaway

9th April 2008, 21:41

steady-state cornering grip goes to the bridgestone, with the falken just barely behind. The Hankook is a little more behind, but still an amazing tire. The Falken transitions better than the bridgestone. The falken also is the least tolerant of high heat out of those three tires. I'll be be getting the Falken in a few weeks or so unless one of the other best of the best (maybe the new Dunlop) is of similar price, or cheaper.

DriveHard

10th April 2008, 11:38

Guys,

I need some help for all of you who are shopping for tires. I have seen a lot of post that read something like this.

Getting new tires which is best? Or Is Blank a good tire?

While these are good questions it may get an answer like this:

The Bridgestone RE-01R are the best tire ever made.

My point is the Bridgestone RE-01R is a great tire for a VERY aggressive driver or some one who autocrosses but still wants to run a streetable tire.

With that said its NOT the right tire for every one. It depends on YOUR needs. Also keep in mind that most people like the tire they have now so they recommend that tire.

It would help a ton if you listed a couple of your basic needs. Some of you are doing this now. Example:

I am looking for new tires for miata. I would like something that has good wet traction, lasts a bout 40,000 miles and is fairly quiet. Let us know what your replacing. Also mention what you liked or disliked about that tire. You should also list the price range you would like to be within. I would also recommend listing your tire size.

This will help everyone to make a Good tire recommendation for your needs.

Rudy, Here is my situiation,

2003 Miata SE, current tires are oem Bridgestone Turanza's 205/45/16 with 22k on them, rears are shot, fronts are close even with rotating them.

These tires are way to noisey as they go thru there life, and as a service manager for a BMW store, i have alot of experience with "noisey" bridgestones, if you know what i mean..

I live on Long Island, in New York. Car is driven 8 to 9 months of the year. Not my daily driver, and not in the snow, but will be driven in the "cold" when the sun shines.

I drive very hard in the dry and don't mind driving in the rain, so it needs to perform very well there also. The car is way to light to not be able to disapate water quickly.

a) wear is not a big concern
b) price of 400-500, for 4 ok ( i load force balance at my shop )
c) cold weather performance an isuue (UHP summer tires may not be a good choice
d) Noise is a big concern, I cant stand the droan
e) i perfer to keep same tire size as i have been lucky not to bend any wheels or damage any side walls
f) I would like at least 2 recomendations so i can research there pros and cons.

Thanks for all you help, and the support you give the site.

Rudy@tirerack

10th April 2008, 11:58

DRIVEHARD - Thank your for your email.

Based on your needs my 1st recommendation is the Pirelli PZERO NERO MS.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=87

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=PZero+Nero+M%26S

Based on what you told me my 2nd recommendation is BF Goodrich Super Sport AS. These retail for $96 each.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+Super+Sport+A%2FS

I do not think you would be going wrong with either choice. Now you can get your review on. :wave:

Rudy@tirerack

10th April 2008, 12:00

How would you compare the Hankook Ventus RS-2 with the Falken Azenis RT-615 and Bridgestone RE-01R in the ways of best dry cornering ability? That is what I'm really looking for.

In terms of shear dry traction I would rate them this way.

1 Bridgestone
2 Falken
3 Hankook

We do not sell Falken so I do not have very much experience with these. This is just what I have seen out at the Track. I recommended the Hankook because it is a great tire and is really all most drivers would ever need and its a great value.

CoryB

10th April 2008, 16:18

How would the Dunlop Z1 Star Spec compare to that list? From what I've read it should be superior to any of them. I have experience with the Falken RT-615 only so far.

In terms of shear dry traction I would rate them this way.

1 Bridgestone
2 Falken
3 Hankook

We do not sell Falken so I do not have very much experience with these. This is just what I have seen out at the Track. I recommended the Hankook because it is a great tire and is really all most drivers would ever need and its a great value.

Rudy@tirerack

10th April 2008, 16:54

How would the Dunlop Z1 Star Spec compare to that list? From what I've read it should be superior to any of them. I have experience with the Falken RT-615 only so far.

Actually I am really not 100% sure. They look very promising. They will be right in there, but I have not got to see them in person. We will test them early this spring at the Tire Rack until then here is the info I have on them :

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=272495&highlight=dunlop+star

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=275752&highlight=dunlop+star

Keyser Soze

10th April 2008, 17:16

When I ordered a set of wheels and tires for my NC I had a couple tires in mind, and decided to call the TR to check on availability as well as get their opinions on the tires. I forget who I spoke with (it was over a year ago), but they were extremely helpful, and got me into a tire that suits my needs and didn't cost me more than I needed to spend. I'm extremely happy with the recommendation and service I received.

While I think the forums is a good place to get input, I think calling up the Tire Rack and speaking with someone is another valuable tool that posters should utilize. Some might feel they get pushed into a tire they don't really want, but I'm sure there's many more (like me) that also get nudged towards a tire they DO like.

And that's my 2 cents. ;)

Rudy@tirerack

11th April 2008, 12:21

I agree! Thank you guys for the support!! ;)

87rocket

11th April 2008, 13:43

Rudy...just orderd a set of RE-01R's on-line...I know..I know...world's greatest tire.

You have to get Miata.net added as a source of hearing about TR.

Rudy@tirerack

11th April 2008, 13:51

Rudy...just orderd a set of RE-01R's on-line...I know..I know...world's greatest tire.

You have to get Miata.net added as a source of hearing about TR.

Thanks for your order. If you get a second email me your order confirmation so I can look over and make sure it ships as fast as possible.

zoom_x2

12th April 2008, 18:00

Hey Rudy,

I'm looking for some new tyres for my '99 Miata. I'm replacing my Toyo T1Rs (195/50) which have been a little disappointing - especially after running F1 GSD3s. The Toyo's sidewalls are too flimsy, and the wet traction could be better, but the tread wear has been excellent. Anyways, I'm looking at something with:

-great dry grip (wet would be nice but I'm willing to sacrifice)
-$100ish price cap (I can only dream of those Advan A048s...)
-I'd like the tread wear to be something around 20k but that's just a wish

I don't care about road noise/comfort, there's no snow around here, and I also autoX from time to time. Thanks for your help!

JM1NA

13th April 2008, 12:21

HI Rudy,
I'm wanting to get new rubber on a set of 15X7 rota RB panasport replicas app. 14-15lbs each. I'm not concerned about having the most grip available, I'm more concerned with having a light tire so that I don't lose too much of the original feel of the lightweight factory 14" alloys and sticky enough for the occasional wet road during road trips. I don't need long wearing treads as the car only sees a few thousand miles a year. I currently have falken ze-512's on my 14" wheels.
Any suggestions for a lightweight 195/50/15?

Rudy@tirerack

14th April 2008, 13:45

zoom_x2 - For $ 104 a tire the Bridgestone Potenza RE01R are an AWESOME tire. 2nd option Hankook Ventus R-S2 for $74 each. Give me a call if you would like to place an order.

Rudy@tirerack

14th April 2008, 13:48

HI Rudy,
I'm wanting to get new rubber on a set of 15X7 rota RB panasport replicas app. 14-15lbs each. I'm not concerned about having the most grip available, I'm more concerned with having a light tire so that I don't lose too much of the original feel of the lightweight factory 14" alloys and sticky enough for the occasional wet road during road trips. I don't need long wearing treads as the car only sees a few thousand miles a year. I currently have falken ze-512's on my 14" wheels.
Any suggestions for a lightweight 195/50/15?

The General Exclaim UHP are the lightest I found at 16lbs each. These have decent grip and are good in the wet. So if its lightweight you looking for this is a good choice.

Red_5

14th April 2008, 18:10

Rudy,
Is there a place on your site that tells you where a tire is manufactured? Thanks for all the great info.

e

Rudy@tirerack

14th April 2008, 18:38

Rudy,
Is there a place on your site that tells you where a tire is manufactured? Thanks for all the great info.

e

You more than welcome. I do not have this information on the website. I will have if for you, but you will have to call and talk to me. :D . Just let me know either by phone or email.

Fuerte

14th April 2008, 18:59

Okay, let this newbie take a crack at it: I just purchased my first Miata (a '92) and need to replace the tires right away. I'd like to strike as good a balance between performance (L.A. canyons) and comfort (L.A. freeways) as possible. I will NEVER drive in snow and ice, and will drive in rain so infrequently as to be inconsequential. I plan on putting about 6K miles/year on the car, so treadwear isn't a big issue. Oh yeah, I'd also like to spend about $60 per tire if possible, but a little more won't kill me (my wife might, though.) Thanks in advance for your advice!

mikewolf

14th April 2008, 20:28

Any reason why the bridgestone rebate doesn't apply to the RE01R?

I want a rebate when I buy the world's greatest tires :)

miata12321

14th April 2008, 20:55

I agree.

JasonC SBB

15th April 2008, 01:11

How do Fuzion ZRi, and Kumho SPT, compare to the other tires in their class that have been mentioned in this thread?

I really liked SPT's on my wife's Focus, but they no longer make the 205/55/15 size. I switched to ZRi's which seem very comparable.

mrpresident

15th April 2008, 01:33

I just put Bridgestone S-03 Pole positions on my RX-8 (225/45ZR18) yesterday. I haven't had them in pouring rain yet and I only have 25 miles on them but I like the way they feel and grip so far, especially compared to the OEM Bridgestone RE-040's that were on there. They are slightly noisy but not objectionable. The price was right at $115/tire on closeout. I'm not sure if they have any Miata sized left but I think they were a great deal. The RE040's were down to the wear bars after 19,000 miles and lost dry grip pretty fast, although they did pretty decently in the wet even when worn out.

I had Toyo T1-s's on my '94 Miata in 15". They were pretty grippy but I had nothing but trouble with balance with them.

zoom_x2

15th April 2008, 11:27

zoom_x2 - For $ 104 a tire the Bridgestone Potenza RE01R are an AWESOME tire. 2nd option Hankook Ventus R-S2 for $74 each. Give me a call if you would like to place an order.

Yeah, I probably won't be ordering a set until mid-summer, but I'll definitely drop your name when I order my tyres. Those RE01Rs are going to make me poor - but fast :P Thanks for your help!

Rudy@tirerack

15th April 2008, 11:30

Fuerte - Take a look at the Sumitomo HTR 200 at $ 45 each (will make your wife happy with the price).

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Sumitomo&tireModel=HTR+200

Top rated in there category. Great value.

Rudy@tirerack

15th April 2008, 11:31

Any reason why the bridgestone rebate doesn't apply to the RE01R?

I want a rebate when I buy the world's greatest tires :)

I wish too. I honestly do not know why Bridgestone does not include this tire in the rebate. My thoughts are they price it very competitive for the technology it offers.

Rudy@tirerack

15th April 2008, 11:32

How do Fuzion ZRi, and Kumho SPT, compare to the other tires in their class that have been mentioned in this thread?

I really liked SPT's on my wife's Focus, but they no longer make the 205/55/15 size. I switched to ZRi's which seem very comparable.

They are actually very close. I think the Kuhmo has a little better dry performance. The Fuzion gets a slight edge in the wet.

Another Toy

15th April 2008, 15:00

I'm planning ahead for my stock 1999. It came used with Khumo Ecsta Supras, so that is my starting/comparison point. I daily commute 40 miles round trip stop and go, highway, some spirited driving no track or auto cross time. I like a grippy tire that has a predictable breakaway. I live in Virginia so the tire has to handle well in the rain as well as dry. I want the tire to last between 20 and 30K and not growl like the Turanzas on my wife's BMW. Obviously the cheaper the better. I know everything is a compromise..........what are my choices, and the compromises they bring. Thanks for the help.

Another Toy

16th April 2008, 08:05

After continued searching the General exclaim UHP looks like a good tire from the reviews on here and on Tire Rack....Thoughts?

bdg6979

16th April 2008, 09:48

rudy, i have a 1999 miata, with the stock 15x6 wheels, so i would need a 195/50/15 tire. I have bilstein coilovers and the car is lowered about 1 to 1.5 inches and it also has fm sway bars. Im looking for a tire with good wet and dry traction but also will get closer to 30 to 40 thousand miles. I dont do autocross or anything just daily driving and alot of fun sprited driving. I have used the gsd3's and they didnt last as long as i had hoped but were great tires, and i currently have yokohama avs es 100's that have gotten about 25000.

Rudy@tirerack

16th April 2008, 11:01

After continued searching the General exclaim UHP looks like a good tire from the reviews on here and on Tire Rack....Thoughts?

The General is really a very nice tire. Good handling an response. Very good Hydorplanning resistance and very good ride/noise comfort. Oh by the way you can NOT go wrong with their price. ;)

Rudy@tirerack

16th April 2008, 11:04

rudy, i have a 1999 miata, with the stock 15x6 wheels, so i would need a 195/50/15 tire. I have bilstein coilovers and the car is lowered about 1 to 1.5 inches and it also has fm sway bars. Im looking for a tire with good wet and dry traction but also will get closer to 30 to 40 thousand miles. I dont do autocross or anything just daily driving and alot of fun sprited driving. I have used the gsd3's and they didnt last as long as i had hoped but were great tires, and i currently have yokohama avs es 100's that have gotten about 25000.

I would also recommend for you the General Exclaim UHP. Very good tire for the money and they usually last 30-35k. Any thing that get more mileage than this and your going to be giving up the funfactor :cry: . Keep in mind also that this tire is only $54 in your size so it will not break the bank when you replace them :D .

bdg6979

16th April 2008, 11:07

rudy, how does the yoko s. drive stand up mileage wise?

Rudy@tirerack

16th April 2008, 11:42

rudy, how does the yoko s. drive stand up mileage wise?

Probably 25-28k.

Another Toy

16th April 2008, 12:38

Thanks Rudy. Are there any negatives to the General? Like sensitivity to alignment, hard to balance etc... Any other tires to compare for around the same money or is the UHP the best all around tire for the money and daily commuting with some spirited driving.

obofglob

16th April 2008, 14:33

Rudy, I own a 94R Miata. I am looking for a set of 14" tires .
I have Dunlop SP8000s in 195/55/14 on 94M edition rims now.
I also own a set of SSR/Cs 15x6.5 with Bridgstone SO3's in 195/50/15.
I would like to try something other then SP8000's, I do not drive the car in wet weather.
I am looking for something in 14" that handles like the SO3's but rides like the Dunlops. Thanks!!

theshdwconspracy

16th April 2008, 16:25

Alright, i am getting in the game for some new tires soon so lets see what you think.

Its a 90 miata with coilovers
I live in arizona, so wet weather is not an issue, and it rarely gets cold.
I am currently running stock size wheels 14x6's and my current tires are Falken ziex 512's in 185/60R 14

Id like something grippier but not more than $100 a tire
any suggestions for me???

Rudy@tirerack

17th April 2008, 10:30

Thanks Rudy. Are there any negatives to the General? Like sensitivity to alignment, hard to balance etc... Any other tires to compare for around the same money or is the UHP the best all around tire for the money and daily commuting with some spirited driving.

No issues. I have personally run these before no problems.

Rudy@tirerack

17th April 2008, 12:49

Rudy, I own a 94R Miata. I am looking for a set of 14" tires .
I have Dunlop SP8000s in 195/55/14 on 94M edition rims now.
I also own a set of SSR/Cs 15x6.5 with Bridgstone SO3's in 195/50/15.
I would like to try something other then SP8000's, I do not drive the car in wet weather.
I am looking for something in 14" that handles like the SO3's but rides like the Dunlops. Thanks!!

Unfortunately the Dunlops is the only Tire I have in that size.

O.K.

17th April 2008, 15:58

Rudy- how does the sumitomo htr 200 and general uhp compare to the toyo t1r in weight ,turn in, and on road performance.The size is 195-50-15 , to beused in warm weather,no rain.

O.K.

17th April 2008, 16:09

Rudy,what is the weight of the rs212 in 195-50-15?

stowaway

17th April 2008, 16:15

Rudy,what is the weight of the rs212 in 195-50-15?
looks like 19lbs.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Hankook&model=Ventus+R-S2&partnum=95WR5Z212&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=1

Rudy@tirerack

17th April 2008, 16:40

looks like 19lbs.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Hankook&model=Ventus+R-S2&partnum=95WR5Z212&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=1

Confirmed at 19lbs. This tire is awesome for the money. :D :) :D You read my mind.

stowaway

17th April 2008, 21:04

Confirmed at 19lbs. This tire is awesome for the money. :D :) :D You read my mind.
I have almost everything from Tirerack's site memorized (or at least the quickest way to look things up) from doing being the go-to guy on the forums for my other car, SRT-4. :D

One thing I will comment on, and if you can pass it along...plastic hub rings are nice to have included for free, but keeping aluminum ones in stock, even if it's an extra we have to ask for, would solve some headaches for many of us. I know there's a lot of different diameters you'd need, so that may make it too difficult.

Rudy@tirerack

17th April 2008, 22:30

I have almost everything from Tirerack's site memorized (or at least the quickest way to look things up) from doing being the go-to guy on the forums for my other car, SRT-4. :D

One thing I will comment on, and if you can pass it along...plastic hub rings are nice to have included for free, but keeping aluminum ones in stock, even if it's an extra we have to ask for, would solve some headaches for many of us. I know there's a lot of different diameters you'd need, so that may make it too difficult.

Hey Thanks for the Feedback. It seems like you and alot of the othe enthusiast on the site are very knowledgeable. In alot of cases I think I can help you if you need aluminum rings for a wheel we carry. Just let me know. I am here to support you guys! ;)

crabbymiata

18th April 2008, 08:16

why can't i find tires available in this part of the globe in your charts? do tire manufacturers produce specific tires for particular regions only? for example dunlop lm703, michelin xm1 and michelin mxv8 how do these rate against your charts/survey so at least i would have some reference or basis for my purchase? thanks...

Rudy@tirerack

18th April 2008, 14:17

why can't i find tires available in this part of the globe in your charts? do tire manufacturers produce specific tires for particular regions only? for example dunlop lm703, michelin xm1 and michelin mxv8 how do these rate against your charts/survey so at least i would have some reference or basis for my purchase? thanks...

Unfortunately we only test/survey DOT approved tires which are used in the USA.

crabbymiata

20th April 2008, 10:09

thanks for the response. i wonder why though? anyway, i just hope the available non DOT approved and not used in the USA tires here are not that inferior in quality!

pekko

20th April 2008, 15:25

Rudy,

I'm looking for a new set of Summer Ultra High Performance tires for my NC 205/45R17 NO-RFT to replace the stock one. I'm living in California and mainly drive along freeway (80% of the time), the rest on windy highway (no race-track). My main concern would be on noise & comfort, and dry-traction. Something within $120 range would be nice.

Researching through tirerack, my choices wind down to (in order)
Yokohama S.Drive (due to tirerack comments on good highway manner)
BFGoodrich G-force sport
General Exclaim UHP

Any suggestions between this three? Or other tires you'd suggested?
Thanks.

miata12321

20th April 2008, 16:06

Rudy, how do you feel about the Hankook RS-2 tires first? Are they better than the Toyo T1-R (I have them now and hate them)? I have 15x7 wheels. I'm looking at the 205/50/15 and the 225/45/15. What are your opinions on putting the 225/45/15 Hankook RS-2 on a 15x7 wheel?

Would it grip better than the 195/50/15 Bridgestone RE-01R?

O.K.

20th April 2008, 16:43

miata 12321-I am thinking about T1R in 195-50-15.I like the light weight and grip but am concerned about turn in (I have 15x7 wheels).Is this why you don't like T1R ?
I like the RS212 but am trying to lower my weight per corner on this street only car.

miata12321

20th April 2008, 17:06

I don't think that they grip at all. They have a 280 treadwear. I'm probably going to end up buying the Bridgestone RE-01R for a daily. I think that it depends on your suspension setup too. My car is very stiff and the T1-R's can not hold on at all for me.

87rocket

20th April 2008, 19:35

Miata 12321...as someone who just switched from Toyo T1-Rs to Bridgestone RE-01Rs....Run...do not walk...to get some RE-01R. Its like driving an entirely different car. The ride is better the response is incredible.

miata12321

20th April 2008, 21:26

Really? They are that much better? Better grip? Turn-In? Feel?

Rudy@tirerack

21st April 2008, 08:35

Peko - For what your looking for I would probably pick the General Exclaim UHP. It has the best ride with good dry grip.

Rudy@tirerack

21st April 2008, 08:37

Rudy, how do you feel about the Hankook RS-2 tires first? Are they better than the Toyo T1-R (I have them now and hate them)? I have 15x7 wheels. I'm looking at the 205/50/15 and the 225/45/15. What are your opinions on putting the 225/45/15 Hankook RS-2 on a 15x7 wheel?

Would it grip better than the 195/50/15 Bridgestone RE-01R?

I do like the Hankook. More dry grip than the Toyo. The Bridgesone is the best in dry grip currently.

Mad Swede

21st April 2008, 08:56

A co-worker was all hot on Pirrellis, and then he found the Exclaim (for way less $$, since he has 16" wheels).. He is "testing" them for me. I am interested in them as well. I am worried, however, that by the time I need them General will have reacted to the demand and jacked the price up... :(

Mad Swede

21st April 2008, 08:57

"When placing an order please reference "Miata.net" when checking out. This helps to support the forum."

Wish I had known this when my son and I ordered winter tire/wheel combos last Nov/Dec....

miata12321

21st April 2008, 11:16

Rudy, is there a miata.net discount at tirerack?

Rudy@tirerack

21st April 2008, 15:30

Thank you for the inquiry. The Tire Rack does not off any discounts. Please keep in mind we would love to have your business. The Tire Rack also helps to support many forum as well as local autocross/club events ect. They would want to put there support to bigger groups for more people to enjoy. I also think our pricing is very competitive. Let me know if I can help you further.

Rudy@tirerack

21st April 2008, 15:31

"When placing an order please reference "Miata.net" when checking out. This helps to support the forum."

Wish I had known this when my son and I ordered winter tire/wheel combos last Nov/Dec....

Well you can do it next time! Maybe you will get the General UHPs from us. :D

Mazdajg94

21st April 2008, 15:39

Rudy- I had Generals (OEM) on another car of mine. Complete crap. The tread separated from the carcass and chunking occurred. This was on a family sedan driven as such. Have you had any reports of the General UHP's doing this?

I know it's highly rated...but I have a hard time getting over my first experience with General's. Thanks.

Rudy@tirerack

21st April 2008, 16:10

Rudy- I had Generals (OEM) on another car of mine. Complete crap. The tread separated from the carcass and chunking occurred. This was on a family sedan driven as such. Have you had any reports of the General UHP's doing this?

I know it's highly rated...but I have a hard time getting over my first experience with General's. Thanks.

I was not recommending the General to you. I think you are looking for something with better dry traction. I have personally owned the Generals UHP and they worked fine. I have not seen many complaints with this tire.

bavarianbenz

21st April 2008, 21:35

How about 185/60R 14 (stock wheels on 93 Miata)
No snow
Don't care too much about wet traction (third car)
Don't care about wear (ditto)
Want responsiveness (first) and quiet (second)
Thanks, Mark

stowaway

22nd April 2008, 08:41

195/60-14 Hankook Ventus R-S2 will have the best grip overall and shouldn't have any fitment problems. There aren't many options in the 185/60-14 size, only the old and not so great Yokohama ES100.

Rudy@tirerack

23rd April 2008, 10:24

195/60-14 Hankook Ventus R-S2 will have the best grip overall and shouldn't have any fitment problems. There aren't many options in the 185/60-14 size, only the old and not so great Yokohama ES100.

+1

miatapassata

23rd April 2008, 11:56

Rudy, I have to comment for the guy in Cali who was liking the Goodyear F1 GSD3s, who said occasional light snow. The snow probably makes thes a no-go. I have the F1's, and they are right at the top in dry grip, unbeatable in wet grip, cornering, and especially, braking; but just about undriveable in snow. If there's any snow involved, there are better choices.

In cold weather and snow they turn into hockey pucks. I drove out my driveway with a light snow on the gound, about 1" or less, and at even low speed there was scary steering and braking. Almost slid into a curb within 200' of my driveway. It was all I could do to turn the car around and get back into the garage unscathed. Parked the Miata and jumped into the Passat with Falken all seasnos, no problem.

If only dry and wet grip is a concern, the Goodyears are the best wet tire I have ever driven. Just like driving in the dry.

Rudy@tirerack

23rd April 2008, 12:43

Thanks for the feedback. I agree. Thats the reason they are called Maximum Performance Summer tires. They will loose a significant amount of dry and wet grip below 40 degrees also. Thank you for pointing this out. ;) I appreciate all you guys feedback it helps the whole group.

fruitbat

24th April 2008, 21:16

Hi Rudy,

I have a 2006 miata sport w/o tpms (205/45R17). The tires that came with it are Michelin Pilot Preceda's and I've had no complaints.

I live in the San Francisco bay area which is dry most of the year with what I'd call light rain in the winter. Snow is almost unheard of. Summer heat can be around 100f. It's my daily driver (I'm a moderately aggressive driver), mostly highway, and I occasionally go into the hills to drive the twisty roads for fun. No track or racing.

I think my priority order is dry handling , comfort/low noise, treadwear, wet, snow.

Suggestions?

thanks!

blottogg

25th April 2008, 02:27

This is a great thread. Let me throw this question out to the peanut gallery. I've got a 96' M with 16x7 SSR Integrals, currently running Yoko A520's, 215/40 16R. I think I've got my choices narrowed down to Falken Azenis RT-615's (I understand you don't carry these at Tire Rack Rudy, but I'll welcome comments from others), Toyo T1-R's, and Bridgestone RE-01R's. I'd prefer the Falkens based on other recommendations I've gotten, but they don't offer the same size I'm currently running, which is the widest tread I can run with my current setup without rubbing. The closest are 205/40-16 or 215/45-16, the latter of which probably won't fit. Tread width is a factor because I've got an 8 psi blower, and I want to be able to put the power down.

My top criteria (other than fit), in no particular order, are: dry and wet grip, wear and ride comfort. My wife has back problems, which is why I'm also still considering the T1-R's. Snow isn't a factor (I've got a set of Nokian's for the winter, nice snow tires BTW.) Noise isn't much of a concern, either. The JR exhaust drowns out most tire noise.

The Yokos wore like iron, but gripped like it too, especially after they'd been heat-cycled quite a bit. Any volatiles have long since left the compound. Their progressive breakaway is still nice, however.

jambo101

25th April 2008, 04:20

I've been happy with Yokohama 100es tires and have had a lot of fun roaring through the twisties,however due to the Miata about to be traded in and my ES100's just about finished and a mandatory trip to Florida i told my local tire dealer to just put on the cheapest 4 seasons,Well i guess i dont drive as fast as i think i do because it was 2 days into roaring around the twisties of Appalachia before i remembered that i only had cheap all seasons on the car,
So unless you push your car to the limit on a regular basis i would just go with a good all season tire.

777

25th April 2008, 08:33

Thank you for the inquiry. The Tire Rack does not off any discounts.

Do you have any 'bundle' deals if you get tires & wheels together? I've been looking at Kosei & Hankook R-S2.

Rudy@tirerack

25th April 2008, 08:54

fruitbat - Thanks for your post. I really do not think you need an all season tire in San Fransisco. The Michelin you are currently running are not all season. I would recommend going with the Bridgstone Potenza RE760 Sport. Great handling and very good noise/comfort. They currently qualify for the $ 50 rebate on a set of 4. Let me know if you would like to order them. Thanks!

Rudy@tirerack

25th April 2008, 09:09

blottogg - The tires that you mentioned are going to ride stiffer louder than the Yokos. Now I know the Yokos tend to get louder as they wear, but they have fixed that problem. I maybe wrong, but it does not sound like you need those Extreme performance tires. Take a look at the Kuhmo Ecsta SPT. Very good handling, good wet traction and smooth/quiet and a good value! Save your wifes back!! :D

Rudy@tirerack

25th April 2008, 09:14

Do you have any 'bundle' deals if you get tires & wheels together? I've been looking at Kosei & Hankook R-S2.

What we do for the package is we include FREE Hunter Roadforce Balancing and include the mounting hardware (lug nuts, centering rings ect.) for free. Your business also helps support Miata.Net!

I also give great customer service for FREE!! ;)

blottogg

25th April 2008, 13:43

Oh, great Rudy. I'm trying to narrow down my choices, and you throw another one into the mix :) . Actually, those look like a good choice that I hadn't considered. Thanks, I'll give them a closer look.

CoryB

25th April 2008, 15:04

Rudy, here's another one for you.

2007 Touring MX-5 in Virginia. Currently running on worn-out Michelin Precedas.

I had been looking at the Dunlop Z1 Star Specs but the finance minister (wife) has concerns about the tread life on those. How about the Dunlop SP Sport Maxx or Sumitomo HTR Z III?

I realize I'm giving up some performance with either of those versus the Z1. I have a set of dedicated autox tires so that's not a concern.

I drive mildly aggressively on the street (I love on/off ramps) so traction is a big factor but the tires also need to do well in rain and have reasonable (20K?) tread life. We occasionally get snow but I have other vehicles to drive when we do.

Thanks!

Rudy@tirerack

25th April 2008, 15:35

CoryB - Thank you for your inquiry.

The Sumitomo HTRZ III 's rock!! These blend a better combination of Wet, Ride/noise comfort and wear than the Z1 's . Very good choice for a daily driver and you wife will like the price on those as well! :wave:

Sprite63

25th April 2008, 15:54

03 Shinsen running 205 45 16 Original tires. Looking for a quiet riding high performance summer tire that will lessen the noise factor and provide more comfort for a spirited , not agressive driver. Considering a 50 series to provide a more comfortable ride than the 45s. Like what I here about the General UHP but its on nationwide back order in 205 50 16.

Alternatives?

fruitbat

25th April 2008, 19:29

fruitbat - I would recommend going with the Bridgstone Potenza RE760 Sport. Great handling and very good noise/comfort. They currently qualify for the $ 50 rebate on a set of 4.

Thanks Rudy!

777

25th April 2008, 21:46

Please help me to finalize my decision.

Without running into any problems;

What is the widest tire that can be fitted to a 15 x 6.5 wheel?

BOFH

26th April 2008, 13:18

What we do for the package is we include FREE Hunter Roadforce Balancing and include the mounting hardware (lug nuts, centering rings ect.) for free. Your business also helps support Miata.Net!

I also give great customer service for FREE!! ;)

Rudy, thanks for the help with my recent wheel / tire combo purchase. Since the wheels and tires I bought (Yokohama S drive 205 /50 / 15 on 15x7 Kosei K1 TSs) shipped mounted and balanced, I couldn't weigh just the tires, but the weight of this wheel and tire combination was 24.5-25lbs each. The old setup of 16x7 Borbet type BS and Bridgestone RE750 205 / 45 / 16 tires were 40lbs each. Dropping 15lbs per wheel / tire is nice.

It's too soon to tell how the Yokos will handle, but I'd guess pretty much anything will be an improvement over the RE750s. :cool:

Rudy@tirerack

26th April 2008, 13:51

Please help me to finalize my decision.

Without running into any problems;

What is the widest tire that can be fitted to a 15 x 6.5 wheel?

For a 6.5 Wheel you should stay with a 205/45R16 to stay within tire manufacturer recommended specs.

Rudy@tirerack

26th April 2008, 13:52

Rudy, thanks for the help with my recent wheel / tire combo purchase. Since the wheels and tires I bought (Yokohama S drive 205 /50 / 15 on 15x7 Kosei K1 TSs) shipped mounted and balanced, I couldn't weigh just the tires, but the weight of this wheel and tire combination was 24.5-25lbs each. The old setup of 16x7 Borbet type BS and Bridgestone RE750 205 / 45 / 16 tires were 40lbs each. Dropping 15lbs per wheel / tire is nice.

It's too soon to tell how the Yokos will handle, but I'd guess pretty much anything will be an improvement over the RE750s. :cool:

Thank you again very much for your business. :wave:

Sprite63

27th April 2008, 12:53

03 Shinsen running 205 45 16 Original tires. Looking for a quiet riding high performance summer tire that will lessen the noise factor and provide more comfort for a spirited , not agressive driver. Considering a 50 series to provide a more comfortable ride than the 45s. Like what I here about the General UHP but its on nationwide back order in 205 50 16.

Alternatives?

BUMP

Tahoe Dave

27th April 2008, 14:20

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Rudy@tirerack

28th April 2008, 10:28

BUMP

Sorry if I missed you. Yes the General is on a national backorder in this size. I hope to have some within 6-8 weeks. For an alternative. Take a look at the Sumitomo HTR Z2 . Same price as the Generals. Everything else goes up in price quite a bit.

ZMan

29th April 2008, 22:28

Rudy@TireRack or ANYBODY - please share your views

Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S or something else?

I have an 06 MX5 GT. Currently have the Michelin Pilot Preceda 205/45R17. They are close to worn out at 23K miles. I can probably go another 2-3K.

I've been satisfied with the handling of these tires, but would prefer to get better than 25K on a set of tires.

Here's my environment (I live near Atlanta GA):
I want good handling (but I don't autocross or race)
Want more than 25K on next set of tires
Good traction in wet (hate hydroplaning)
Fairly quiet would be nice
Should still handle well in cold (we do get down in the 20's in the winter)
Snow NOT a factor (we seldom get snow/ice and if we do, I'd park it)

That being said, is the Eagle F1 a good choice? Or is there something better?
I'm impressed with the reviews and like the way the tire looks, tread pattern, etc.

Kauffman Tire will do a set of 4 for $713 drive-out. That includes everything including lifetime rotate/balance and road hazard. They frequently run a sale of $100 off a set of 4 - so that would make it $613 drive-out total.

Can I beat that price by using Tire Rack? Especially since I have to add shipping and then pay someone to mount/balance, road hazard, and a lifetime mount/balance is a nice thing to have and I do use that service.
(Kauffman Tire will not install the tires if they are purchased somewhere else (like Tire Rack).

Thanks for any advice!!

miatapassata

30th April 2008, 09:55

ZMan, take a look at the Conti ExtremeContacts, too. Much longer history on those tires, and a bit less expensive. The Goodyers F1 allseasons haven't been out as long, and high mileage experience is sketchy.

Rudy@tirerack

30th April 2008, 16:14

ZMan - We have done a couple of test on the Goodyear Eagle F1. Its a TOP performer. Treadwear should be around 35k. This is pretty good tread wear for a tire that has a good dry grip. Its also very good in the wet. If you want to send me a PM with your zip code I can look into shipping and what local installation would cost for you.

Rudy@tirerack

2nd May 2008, 13:14

Hey guys I will be out of the office until the 12th of may. I will answer any tire questions on this thread when I return.

777

2nd May 2008, 15:19

What about 215/45 15 ?

Are they okay?

I believe it is just a little smaller in diameter than many stock wheels. Am I right? If so, is that a consideration?

Are there any other factors about this size to take into consideration?

azbearoh

3rd May 2008, 01:04

Just got a pre-owned 2007 MX5. Has Michelin Pilot Preceda tires on it (205/45 17s) 11K+ miles on them. Showing some wear. Wanted to get into XL tires and looked at 215/45 17s. Lots of looking and narrowed down to Yokohoma S.drive, Michelin Exalto PE2, and the Bridgestone RE960 AS Pole Position. Summer vs AS -- live in Phoenix so no snow -- some heavy rain during monsoon so either would do. Looking for comfort, low noise, and handling. The Yokohoma and Michelins were very close and would have chosen Yokos based on price and some better review numbers between the 2. Picked the Bridgestones for couple of reasons --> $75 gift card and 40,000 mile warranty. Figured if could get 40K on UHP tires fantastic, but if not, they will pro-rate the tires and could get some money back toward new tires making them even less and possibly less than the Yokos in the end. Getting tires next week so should know more later and post comments later.

Tahoe Dave

4th May 2008, 10:48

After looking at many many tires I have decided on the Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S. The one remaining question is should I stay with the 205/45-17 or step up a notch to the 215/45-17. It is not clear to me what I would gain or lose.

Mornings here can be in the 30’s anytime and we can get snow or rain any time of year so don’t want to be caught on a ride and faced with a drop in temps and wet roads or a light snow cover and be riding on tires that won't work.

Also, when using the Tire Rack compare feature it appears the F1 does better in just about every category when compared to the OEM Bridgestones.

What is important, besides performance in wet and light snow, is ride comfort, handing and lastly, wear rating.

Tahoe Dave

4th May 2008, 11:21

P.S. when reading reviews by persons having purchased these tires, most are favorable but some are not. The biggest complaint is noise and cupping. The noise for me is not an issue but the potential cupping is. The posters claim it was the tire and not their suspension. Seems odd to me.

Rudy@tirerack

12th May 2008, 13:08

What about 215/45 15 ?

Are they okay?

I believe it is just a little smaller in diameter than many stock wheels. Am I right? If so, is that a consideration?

Are there any other factors about this size to take into consideration?

Your stock diameter is around 22.7. These are 22.6 so should be fine diameter wise.

Rudy@tirerack

12th May 2008, 13:10

Just got a pre-owned 2007 MX5. Has Michelin Pilot Preceda tires on it (205/45 17s) 11K+ miles on them. Showing some wear. Wanted to get into XL tires and looked at 215/45 17s. Lots of looking and narrowed down to Yokohoma S.drive, Michelin Exalto PE2, and the Bridgestone RE960 AS Pole Position. Summer vs AS -- live in Phoenix so no snow -- some heavy rain during monsoon so either would do. Looking for comfort, low noise, and handling. The Yokohoma and Michelins were very close and would have chosen Yokos based on price and some better review numbers between the 2. Picked the Bridgestones for couple of reasons --> $75 gift card and 40,000 mile warranty. Figured if could get 40K on UHP tires fantastic, but if not, they will pro-rate the tires and could get some money back toward new tires making them even less and possibly less than the Yokos in the end. Getting tires next week so should know more later and post comments later.

These are a solid choice. The All season should give you a little better noise comfort and tread wear.

greenmonster1918

14th May 2008, 09:41

Rudy I have a 95-m miata Tire size 195/50/15 I am concidering Toyo T1R or the Proxes4. I am looking for a good street tire no racing but I would also like a tire that I can drive agressively when I am not on the highway. My car has 20K miles and they are Bridgestone Potenza they are loud and do not handle very well however they are 13 yrs old so I assume thats the problem. Toyo's will cost arond 500.00 out the door. Here is my wish list.

High performance wet and dry
Reduced road noise quiet
Highway and country road
195/50/15
Price OTD under 500.00
Warrenty

777

14th May 2008, 11:15

I just received my Kosei from TireRack. Fast delivery! Two thumbs up! Thanks Rudy!

I changed tires from 195/60 14 to 215/45 15. Should I keep the same factory recommended psi?

Rudy@tirerack

14th May 2008, 13:43

After looking at many many tires I have decided on the Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S. The one remaining question is should I stay with the 205/45-17 or step up a notch to the 215/45-17. It is not clear to me what I would gain or lose.

Mornings here can be in the 30’s anytime and we can get snow or rain any time of year so don’t want to be caught on a ride and faced with a drop in temps and wet roads or a light snow cover and be riding on tires that won't work.

Also, when using the Tire Rack compare feature it appears the F1 does better in just about every category when compared to the OEM Bridgestones.

What is important, besides performance in wet and light snow, is ride comfort, handing and lastly, wear rating.

Hey Tahoe! First for the sizing question. The 215 is a 10mm wider tire than the 205. This gives you a little more rubber on the road for better handling. The catch is the 215/45R17 is also a taller tire. This will throw the speed off a tad. You can use the miata.net calc to see the difference.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

The taller side wall will also allow a little more sidewall flex which is better for ride comfort, but a negative for handling. Hope this helps.

The Goodyear is a highly directional tire (v shaped tread design). These tires tend to be a little more prone to cupping if the car is not maintained properly. If they do cup they will get noisy because of the uneven wear. Heavier cars are also more prone to cause tire cupping. As long as you keep the lightweight miata aligned properly and rotate your tires every 5-6 K miles I do not think you will have a problem with cupping.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Rudy@tirerack

14th May 2008, 13:49

I just received my Kosei from TireRack. Fast delivery! Two thumbs up! Thanks Rudy!

I changed tires from 195/60 14 to 215/45 15. Should I keep the same factory recommended psi?

Awesome glad to hear. Thanks for your business. Because the 215/45R15 are a little shorter in diameter I would try to bump up the PSI by 3 over factory.

joe s

15th May 2008, 13:30

Rudy,
It is finally time to replace the stock Michelin Precedas on my 2006 MX-5 Sport with sport suspension. I want to replace the 205/45-17's with slightly bigger 215/45-17's to fill the wheelwells and slightly lower the RPMs with the 6-speed. The stock tires were good until the last couple of months where they went south in a hurry, no grip and twitchy. I guess that's their way of telling me, after almost 30,000 miles, that it's time to move on.

I use the car for commuting and general driving about, 11 months out of the year. I have another car with winter tires for snow and sloppy roads, and learned to back off in the cold (unless I want to slide the back end). I drive agressively on windy back roads and exit ramps. About 35% of my commute is highway, but I have a Roadstersport muffler so road noise isn't an issue.

I am looking for a lightweight summer performance tire, with good dry traction and response, to maximize the street performance wheel alignment. I want to keep the gradual slide that the Michelins gave me at the limit, with no sudden breakaway. Wet traction is important, because I use this car in the rain, but I do slow down. Soft sidewalls are definitely no good, I'll give up comfort for responsiveness.

Someday I may bring the car to an autocross or to Lime Rock Park, but the car will need more than tires to be track worthy.

I am looking at Toyo T1R's as recommended by Brian Goodwin, but am still open for suggestions. I don't want a cheap tire, but don't need to spend $200 either. I want to get as light a tire as practical, for the usual reasons as well as to minimize bouncing around on the bumpy roads we have here in Connecticut.

Thanks for your help.
Joe

Rudy@tirerack

16th May 2008, 13:44

Joe - Take a look also at the Hankook RS-2. Car and Driver rated them quite a bit better in overall performance during the testing they did at the Tire Rack.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=69

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Hankook&tireModel=Ventus+R-S2

Also look at the Sumitomo HTR ZIII. This tire did extremely well in testing at the Tire Rack.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=93

joe s

16th May 2008, 19:48

Thanks, Rudy, the Sumitomo look good. I wonder why you didn't mention the Goodyear GS-D3 that came in first in that C&D test? I see it won a lot of points for wet performance, which isn't a bad thing. My local dealer wants to sell me a set for $102 ea M&B.

MX5Series

16th May 2008, 20:27

Rudy,
It is finally time to replace the stock Michelin Precedas on my 2006 MX-5 Sport with sport suspension. I want to replace the 205/45-17's with slightly bigger 215/45-17's to fill the wheelwells and slightly lower the RPMs with the 6-speed. The stock tires were good until the last couple of months where they went south in a hurry, no grip and twitchy. I guess that's their way of telling me, after almost 30,000 miles, that it's time to move on.

I use the car for commuting and general driving about, 11 months out of the year. I have another car with winter tires for snow and sloppy roads, and learned to back off in the cold (unless I want to slide the back end). I drive agressively on windy back roads and exit ramps. About 35% of my commute is highway, but I have a Roadstersport muffler so road noise isn't an issue.

I am looking for a lightweight summer performance tire, with good dry traction and response, to maximize the street performance wheel alignment. I want to keep the gradual slide that the Michelins gave me at the limit, with no sudden breakaway. Wet traction is important, because I use this car in the rain, but I do slow down. Soft sidewalls are definitely no good, I'll give up comfort for responsiveness.

Someday I may bring the car to an autocross or to Lime Rock Park, but the car will need more than tires to be track worthy.

I am looking at Toyo T1R's as recommended by Brian Goodwin, but am still open for suggestions. I don't want a cheap tire, but don't need to spend $200 either. I want to get as light a tire as practical, for the usual reasons as well as to minimize bouncing around on the bumpy roads we have here in Connecticut.

Thanks for your help.
Joe

Just bought the Exaltos - so far so very good.

Rudy@tirerack

17th May 2008, 09:25

Thanks, Rudy, the Sumitomo look good. I wonder why you didn't mention the Goodyear GS-D3 that came in first in that C&D test? I see it won a lot of points for wet performance, which isn't a bad thing. My local dealer wants to sell me a set for $102 ea M&B.

Goodyears are very solid tire also. I was just trying to keep the price competitive with the Toyo. Goodyears are the best wet tire I have ever driven on with very good dry performance also. The Sumitomo is Giving you ALOT of bang for your dollar. ;)

Rudy@tirerack

17th May 2008, 09:38

Just bought the Exaltos - so far so very good.

I just saw in another thread you got the PE2's which are a summer tire. Very nice pick!! :D

777

26th May 2008, 22:44

I ordered Toyos through another company (only because you didn't carry them) and had them mounted on the Kosei K1 Racing that I ordered from TireRack. I had them installed by a local tire shop that was recommended on your site, http://www.wheelsbybosley.com/

I have been having some issues with 65mph and have brought the wheels and tires back to them several times. The most recent time, they asked me to bring the whole car in, rather than just the wheels and tires.

When I came back from them, I had to take the wheels off again. They had put the lugs on with an impact gun. There were large variations in the amount of force required to remove them. Some were what I would consider to be normal. Some were on so tightly that they required me to bounce on the lug wrench with my body weight to turn them. Eventually one of them broke the adaptor that you sent to me with the new wheels (looks like a socket) that is used for the smaller diameter lug nuts.

I had to go buy a 4-way that would fit. It still took nearly every bit of my strength twisting that 4-way to get some of them off.

So my questions are;

- Should lugs be so tight as to break that socket-like adaptor?
- If I put them on myself, what kind of lug wrench does a person use to determine the proper lug torque?

wooo

26th May 2008, 22:52

...So my questions are;

- Should lugs be so tight as to break that socket-like adaptor?
- If I put them on myself, what kind of lug wrench does a person use to determine the proper lug torque?I don't think so.

Get a torque wrench and tighten to about 80 ft.lb.

777

27th May 2008, 10:11

Get a torque wrench and tighten to about 80 ft.lb.

Thanks wooo. Where I'm stumped is what lug nut adaptor is it that goes between the lug itself & the torque wrench? Is there some kind of lug adaptor thing that resembles a socket? Where would I get one?

I'm not much of a mechanic if that's not already obvious. :O

wooo

27th May 2008, 10:28

Thanks wooo. Where I'm stumped is what lug nut adaptor is it that goes between the lug itself & the torque wrench? Is there some kind of lug adaptor thing that resembles a socket? Where would I get one?.....Well I wouldn't call it an adaptor, more like a socket.

Start with the lugnuts. Presumably they are hex.

Did they come with the wheels? Mine came with the wheels from TireRack. They also sent the matching socket. Anyway if they didn't come with the wheels, be careful. The lugnut has to match the face of the wheel where they seat. Some are flat, some conical, some sorta spherical.

Onto the socket. It has to match the lugnut size, of course. There is a fairly common size but, I've forgotten what it is and would have to go look. Depending on the lugnut and wheel setup the socket could be regular or deep. If the nut is recessed into the wheel a thin wall socket might be needed. 6 point is best, but 12 point will work.

The torque wrench for the 80 ft.lb. torque probably has 1/2" (square) drive. If the socket is 3/8" drive you will need a 1/2" to 3/8" adaptor.

Presumably you'll buy/borrow a torque wrench. Take a lugnut along to get the correct size socket. Be careful about the possible thin wall requirement.

Make any sense?

Rudy@tirerack

27th May 2008, 16:10

777 - Woo0 has given you good advice. Please give me a call at the Tire Rack if you need more help. I want to make sure your taken care of! :wave:

miata12321

28th May 2008, 07:53

Would there be a substantial grip difference between the 195/50/15 and 205/50/15 Hankook RS-2?

Rudy@tirerack

28th May 2008, 10:21

Would there be a substantial grip difference between the 195/50/15 and 205/50/15 Hankook RS-2?

I would recommend the 205 personally. Its just a little more tread width, but for me tends to feel a little more stable and has a tad better turn in.

ToeCutter66

28th May 2008, 14:35

Hey Rudy,
Is there any tires similar to the Yokohama A008s that we used to be able to get in the early 1990s? I used to work at an indy german car repair shop and we ordered a ton of those from Rick. How is Rick these days? He once helped me get a set of tires for a delorean.

Mr. Cranky

29th May 2008, 09:51

Rudy, do you have a update on the Kazera 15X7, ET30 replacement wheel? Last I heard the new wheel was to be ready about the 1st of June. Thanks, Chuck

Rudy@tirerack

29th May 2008, 12:41

Hey Rudy,
Is there any tires similar to the Yokohama A008s that we used to be able to get in the early 1990s? I used to work at an indy german car repair shop and we ordered a ton of those from Rick. How is Rick these days? He once helped me get a set of tires for a delorean.

The A008 is a older Ultra High performance summer tire. The new Yokohama S drive try should be quite a bit of an improvement in technology.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=S.drive

Rick is still at the Tire Rack. Hes a good guy.

Rudy@tirerack

29th May 2008, 15:02

Rudy, do you have a update on the Kazera 15X7, ET30 replacement wheel? Last I heard the new wheel was to be ready about the 1st of June. Thanks, Chuck

Do you know what model Kazera?

Mr. Cranky

29th May 2008, 17:38

^^^ The KZM001CG, 54 hub. The one that the spec. miata folks are missing so much. We heard this winter that Tire Rack had to find another source as the original factory was no longer making these. I believe the KZ-M came in ET25, 30, 33, and 38. My spec miata friends like the ET30. Chuck

Rudy@tirerack

31st May 2008, 14:51

^^^ The KZM001CG, 54 hub. The one that the spec. miata folks are missing so much. We heard this winter that Tire Rack had to find another source as the original factory was no longer making these. I believe the KZ-M came in ET25, 30, 33, and 38. My spec miata friends like the ET30. Chuck

I figured that was the one. I honestly do not know if I will be getting these again. :cry: Nothing on the water at this time.

777

31st May 2008, 15:19

Rudy,
I got your shipment in the mail yesterday. That was super fast too.

You went above & beyond. Thank you very much!

Brad

GeoBorn

1st June 2008, 20:41

Rudy (or anyone else that has an answer!)

There seems to be divided opinion about all season vs. winter tires, but it's difficult for me to store extra tires.
Is there a good year-round tire for the Midwest? Something that won't ruin Spring/Summer driving and yet give good wet/winter traction??
(Keep in mind, no sort of traction control here). Prefer Japanese brand.
What would you suggest??

Thanks!

Rudy@tirerack

2nd June 2008, 14:58

Rudy,
I got your shipment in the mail yesterday. That was super fast too.

You went above & beyond. Thank you very much!

Brad
:wave: :wave: :wave: Your quite welcome.

Rudy@tirerack

2nd June 2008, 15:02

Rudy (or anyone else that has an answer!)

There seems to be divided opinion about all season vs. winter tires, but it's difficult for me to store extra tires.
Is there a good year-round tire for the Midwest? Something that won't ruin Spring/Summer driving and yet give good wet/winter traction??
(Keep in mind, no sort of traction control here). Prefer Japanese brand.
What would you suggest??

Thanks!

For me the worst snow tire we carry is still 5X better than the best all season. There are some all seasons in the snow that are better than others?
What size are you running?

spanman

2nd June 2008, 18:57

Rudy, et al.:

I've got a '99 with stock 14" wheels, and I drive mostly in and around Phoenix, AZ. That is, the car never sees snow, and rarely sees cold weather or wet pavement.

Back in the late-90s, Potenza RE-71s were highly regarded, and were recommended in size 195-55-14 for the stock wheels. I always intended to pick up a set, but I'm under the impression these are no longer available.

Is there a replacement Potenza tire with comparable performance that is available in that size? Or is there an alternative to the Potenza that you would recommend?

Thanks,
ds

wonsup

3rd June 2008, 02:03

Hi Rudy,

I have a 99 with FMII Turbo. My wheels are stock 15x6 and 195/50R15. I am currently on Eagle F1 GS-D3 which I really like. They are relatively quiet, light weight, has good dry grip and excellent wet grip (I live in Seattle, need good "lightly sprinking but cold rain" tires). They do have slightly less sharp turn-in response compared to other ones that I've owned, but they remain stickier a lot longer. Also they seem to work better in low temperature. (I've had 2 set of the following prior to Eagle F1 - Falken Azenis, Bridgestone S03 Pole Positions, Michellin Pilots.)

I am looking for Eagle F1 GS-D3 like tires (Comfort, quiet, decent turnin response, long stickiness, works well in low 40s upper 30s temperature but no snow), but with more dry and wet grip. :) What would you recommend?

Rudy@tirerack

3rd June 2008, 12:58

spanman - Unfortunately Bridgesone no longer makes a Potenza in the 195/55R14. They do make an All Season Potenza RE960AS in either a 185/60R14 or a 195/60R14.

Rudy@tirerack

3rd June 2008, 13:01

Hi Rudy,

I have a 99 with FMII Turbo. My wheels are stock 15x6 and 195/50R15. I am currently on Eagle F1 GS-D3 which I really like. They are relatively quiet, light weight, has good dry grip and excellent wet grip (I live in Seattle, need good "lightly sprinking but cold rain" tires). They do have slightly less sharp turn-in response compared to other ones that I've owned, but they remain stickier a lot longer. Also they seem to work better in low temperature. (I've had 2 set of the following prior to Eagle F1 - Falken Azenis, Bridgestone S03 Pole Positions, Michellin Pilots.)

I am looking for Eagle F1 GS-D3 like tires (Comfort, quiet, decent turnin response, long stickiness, works well in low 40s upper 30s temperature but no snow), but with more dry and wet grip. :) What would you recommend?

To be honest such a tire is not available that would have better dry and WET grip than the Eagle F1 GS D3. I would recommend another set of these. This is the Best wet weather tire period.

spanman

3rd June 2008, 15:23

spanman - Unfortunately Bridgesone no longer makes a Potenza in the 195/55R14. They do make an All Season Potenza RE960AS in either a 185/60R14 or a 195/60R14.

Thanks, Rudy. I see that the Dunlop SP Sport 8000 is available in 195/55R14. Is it recommended?

ds

Rudy@tirerack

4th June 2008, 14:43

Thanks, Rudy. I see that the Dunlop SP Sport 8000 is available in 195/55R14. Is it recommended?

ds

The dunlop's are not bad. They are just older technology. I would probably pick up the Hankook RS-2 in a 195/60R15.

Tom1223

6th June 2008, 12:39

Guys,

I am looking for new tires for miata. I would like something that has good wet traction, lasts a bout 40,000 miles and is fairly quiet. Let us know what your replacing. Also mention what you liked or disliked about that tire. You should also list the price range you would like to be within. I would also recommend listing your tire size.

Ok I have been reading the postings and searching tire options at several websites and local dealers. I have Michelin Pilar Preceda tires 205/45 R17 84W which I think are the original tires. My Miata has almost 30,000 miles and the outsides of the tires are wearing thin. possible alignment problem that I hope to get taken care of when the tires are replaced. "I would like something that has good wet traction, lasts a bout 40,000 miles and is fairly quiet." That prestty much sums it up but there are so many to choose from and it is very hard to decide. Any suggestions are appreciated, I really don't want to go over $120 per tire, am I limiting myself to substandard tires at that price range? :confused:
Thanks

Nuieve

6th June 2008, 14:43

Rudy,

Any thoughts on Falkens 912s vs General UHPs? I know many say sidewall is softer in UHPs, but does it apply to all sizes, or only low-profile ones? I'm interested in 205/50/15...

Thanks

Alik

8th June 2008, 04:55

To be honest such a tire is not available that would have better dry and WET grip than the Eagle F1 GS D3. I would recommend another set of these. This is the Best wet weather tire period.
Rudy, I kinda hate to ask you this, but I'm curios about the F1 GS-D3.
I've liked my T1-Rs (I know you don't carry them), but they're nearing the end of their life, and wet handling is kinda iffy nowadays.
I understand that General UHPs are very close in performance to T1-Rs.
I have been considering Azenis RT-615, as I auto-x quite a lot, but I'm not good enough to be looking for the 2 second gain just yet (loose nut behind the wheel), and I don't wanna give up wet weather traction.

Looking for a good auto-x tire with decent wet weather traction, between the three, General UHP, Azenis 615, and Eagle F1 GS-D3, which tire would you recommend?

(I kinda liked your previous statement about F1 GS-D3 being "the best wet weather tire period" :) , plus, with a treadwear of 280 it's a lot softer (one would think) than UHP, right?)

Rudy@tirerack

9th June 2008, 10:34

Rudy, I kinda hate to ask you this, but I'm curios about the F1 GS-D3.
I've liked my T1-Rs (I know you don't carry them), but they're nearing the end of their life, and wet handling is kinda iffy nowadays.
I understand that General UHPs are very close in performance to T1-Rs.
I have been considering Azenis RT-615, as I auto-x quite a lot, but I'm not good enough to be looking for the 2 second gain just yet (loose nut behind the wheel), and I don't wanna give up wet weather traction.

Looking for a good auto-x tire with decent wet weather traction, between the three, General UHP, Azenis 615, and Eagle F1 GS-D3, which tire would you recommend?

(I kinda liked your previous statement about F1 GS-D3 being "the best wet weather tire period" :) , plus, with a treadwear of 280 it's a lot softer (one would think) than UHP, right?)

If you autocross. I really would not recommend the General UHP. Its really not that type of tire.

The Azenis would give the best dry grip. The Goodyears are a very good do everything pretty well tire. The Goodyear has very good dry traction, Excellent wet traction, better ride comfort than the Falken and longer treadwear.

Rudy@tirerack

9th June 2008, 15:32

Rudy,

Any thoughts on Falkens 912s vs General UHPs? I know many say sidewall is softer in UHPs, but does it apply to all sizes, or only low-profile ones? I'm interested in 205/50/15...

Thanks

I honestly do not have much experience with the Falken. This is a High performance all season. We consider the General Exclaim an UHP summer tire even though it has an m+s symbol. It would not be good in much snow. I think most people who are disappointed with the sidewall difference are coming from a higher performance oriented tire. Most people love the Generals for daily fun street driving.

Nuieve

9th June 2008, 16:53

I honestly do not have much experience with the Falken. This is a High performance all season. We consider the General Exclaim an UHP summer tire even though it has an m+s symbol. It would not be good in much snow. I think most people who are disappointed with the sidewall difference are coming from a higher performance oriented tire. Most people love the Generals for daily fun street driving.

Thank you! I'm leaning towards Generals and thinking about separate wheel+tires set for winter.

LoneRider

10th June 2008, 18:05

I think you done a very good job with your research. If you want to stay with summer performance I agree the Michelin PE2 would be a great choice.

If your willing to give up just a little in dry road handling then the Goodyear Eagle F1 AS would work well. Its very quite and would give you some snow traction if you were caught in a light snow. Its also very good in the wet.

We do have a warehouse around Sparks. We can set up a pick up but they do not do retail installs. I can recommend someone in your area for installation. Please let me know if you would like me to set something up for you.
Rudy, like TahoeDave, I'm also looking at the Eagle F1 AS and our situations are similar. I've driven my MX-5 down into the 20s and, once, got caught in a very light snow (I normally only drive when its dry but summer can bring lots of rain and it comes suddenly).

I have 18,500 miles on my stock Michelin's. I just returned from just under a 4000 mile road trip where I was hammered in rain and hail the first day. I'm planning on another trip that will be mostly in the twisties of Colorado. :D

For normal driving, it's pretty much speed limit, go left, go right (I live in the sticks of Colorado). But when I get to the twisties, I like to push it hard. I don't do autocrossing or anything like that.

I've read other posts and I've read the TireRack reviews of various AS tires as well as reviews by other mags. I'm pretty much sold on the F1 AS but am a little concerned about noise and handling in the dry.
Thanks,

Nick.

777

10th June 2008, 23:01

There are some tires that are not intended for near freezing temps; e.g Potenza RE760 Sport, Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec, Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT etc.

What would happen if these were driven at or below freezing temps?

Rudy@tirerack

11th June 2008, 10:05

Thank you! I'm leaning towards Generals and thinking about separate wheel+tires set for winter.

Here is another very happy customer with the Generals.

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=286205

There is currently a $50 rebate promotion also. How can you beat that!! ;)

Rudy@tirerack

11th June 2008, 10:08

Rudy, like TahoeDave, I'm also looking at the Eagle F1 AS and our situations are similar. I've driven my MX-5 down into the 20s and, once, got caught in a very light snow (I normally only drive when its dry but summer can bring lots of rain and it comes suddenly).

I have 18,500 miles on my stock Michelin's. I just returned from just under a 4000 mile road trip where I was hammered in rain and hail the first day. I'm planning on another trip that will be mostly in the twisties of Colorado. :D

For normal driving, it's pretty much speed limit, go left, go right (I live in the sticks of Colorado). But when I get to the twisties, I like to push it hard. I don't do autocrossing or anything like that.

I've read other posts and I've read the TireRack reviews of various AS tires as well as reviews by other mags. I'm pretty much sold on the F1 AS but am a little concerned about noise and handling in the dry.
Thanks,

Nick.

Hey Nick,

Do not be concerned! They will not be any louder than the stock Michelin's and will be a UPGRADE in handling. I have Driven on/Tested this tire multiple times and I am a BIG fan of this tire. I think you will be very happy with it. :)

You can call me anytime if you would like to discuss these in further detail!

Rudy@tirerack

11th June 2008, 10:16

There are some tires that are not intended for near freezing temps; e.g Potenza RE760 Sport, Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec, Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT etc.

What would happen if these were driven at or below freezing temps?

Basically the rubber compound is set up to be soft for very responsive handling in the dry warmer temp's ( above 40 degrees). The rubber gets harder and the temp's dip below 40 degrees. At this point the rubber compound is pretty hard and the tire loose a significant amount of grip and if its wet out become downright slippery.

For most tires the cold temp's will not hurt the tire. The only exception that comes to mind is the Yokohama Advan Neova. Yokohama warns that if this tire is driven/stored below 14 degrees it can actually damage the tire.

If you are using a summer tire in cold temp's just use common sense and adjust your speed/driving habits accordingly. Just for the record if you see a lot of colder temp's or snow/ice I would recommend considering a snow tire.

LoneRider

11th June 2008, 10:41

Hey Nick,

Do not be concerned! They will not be any louder than the stock Michelin's and will be a UPGRADE in handling. I have Driven on/Tested this tire multiple times and I am a BIG fan of this tire. I think you will be very happy with it. :)

You can call me anytime if you would like to discuss these in further detail!
Thanks, Rudy. You had responded to another that you could check for a place that would install tires purchases from the TireRack. Can you do that for Colorado Springs or Denver, please? I don't want to buy tires and then find out no one will install them. :)

If this can be found on the TireRack site, please let me know as I'm sure others may have the same question.
Thanks,

Nick.

Rudy@tirerack

11th June 2008, 13:23

Sure its Easy!

Click on this link. Enter your zip code.

http://www.tirerack.com/installer/index.jsp

If you would like my personal recommendation just PM me your Zip Code. This goes for anyone. I am hear to help!

Jvanvuren

11th June 2008, 15:27

Thanks, Rudy. You had responded to another that you could check for a place that would install tires purchases from the TireRack. Can you do that for Colorado Springs or Denver, please? I don't want to buy tires and then find out no one will install them. :)

Nick,

I just bought a set of General Exclaim UHP's from Rudy at Tire Rack, and had them mounted/balanced by Rex Tire here in Colorado Springs. I'm happy overall, although they charged me an extra $15 for tape weights "per Tire Rack"?? Anyways, they didn't scuff my new wheels, took the time to talk with me about various balancing options, etc. They told me the 9700 Road Force balancing would cost a LOT of money (an additional $25 over "normal" balancing done on the same machine) and take 2 to 3 hours EACH. My only suggestion is to call ahead for an appointment, and I probably wouldn't mention Tire Rack at all (at least not right off the bat... something about price guarantees or something, hence the reason I was charged extra for the weights).

John

LoneRider

12th June 2008, 11:58

Thanks, John. That's good advise and I appreciate it!

LoneRider

12th June 2008, 12:01

Sure its Easy!

Click on this link. Enter your zip code.

http://www.tirerack.com/installer/index.jsp

If you would like my personal recommendation just PM me your Zip Code. This goes for anyone. I am hear to help!
Rudy, an excellent link that provided quite a few installers - THANKS!

olgzr

12th June 2008, 18:12

Rudy,
I have a 2006 NC with 30,000 miles on it and the stock Michellin Pilot Procedas in size 205/45 R17. I would like to go to a 225/45 R17 to get a little taller tire to fill the wheel well better and lower the RPM a little on the freeway. I know the speedometer will be off a couple of miles per hour. The suspension has been lowered with Eibach springs and sways. I do not track or autocross so ultimate dry traction is not necessary. I do like windy roads drive them in a spirited manor if traffic allows but most of my driving is freeway. I would like to get 40 to 50 thousand miles from the new tires. The priorities are
1. mileage
2. dry traction
3. wet traction
4. cold weather operation, (it does get cold in N. Texas in the winter)
5. no snow or ice operation, unless a storm hits while I'm at work
6. I would like to stay at $150 per tire or less, but can go up if necessary

Thanks

Rudy@tirerack

14th June 2008, 11:38

Rudy,
I have a 2006 NC with 30,000 miles on it and the stock Michellin Pilot Procedas in size 205/45 R17. I would like to go to a 225/45 R17 to get a little taller tire to fill the wheel well better and lower the RPM a little on the freeway. I know the speedometer will be off a couple of miles per hour. The suspension has been lowered with Eibach springs and sways. I do not track or autocross so ultimate dry traction is not necessary. I do like windy roads drive them in a spirited manor if traffic allows but most of my driving is freeway. I would like to get 40 to 50 thousand miles from the new tires. The priorities are
1. mileage
2. dry traction
3. wet traction
4. cold weather operation, (it does get cold in N. Texas in the winter)
5. no snow or ice operation, unless a storm hits while I'm at work
6. I would like to stay at $150 per tire or less, but can go up if necessary

Thanks

I would go with either the Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport or Yokohama S drives. Both excellent choices and well below $150 a tire.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE760+Sport

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=S.drive

olgzr

14th June 2008, 20:37

Thanks Rudy, those Yokohamas do look good, I'll give them some serious thought.

LoneRider

15th June 2008, 09:35

Rudy, one last question from me (you may have already answered this somewhere else but I'm short on 'search' time) - do you deliver directly to the store that will install the tires?

Again, thanks for all your help!

Nick.

Rudy@tirerack

16th June 2008, 09:13

We sure do! We can ship directly to the installer or just about anywhere you like. I know its hard getting 4 tires in a miata. :D

turboedpickup

3rd July 2008, 13:49

Hello Rudy,

I have a 91 Miata (completely stock), and I was planning on buying 15x8 rota RB's. I do ~ 30% highway, 70% city driving. I'm looking for a dry/summer tire, because I have falken 912's on my 14's for "every other time but summer" (I'll ask you for an all-year-rounder another time). I do enjoy driving spiritedly (very spiritedly) on onramps and such - and would want to do an occasional (very occasional auto-x).

I'm looking for the grip of the Azenis, but from what I've read, it seems that the Hankook RS2's would be my best bet...? These tires range from 195's to 225's. My biggest question would be, as far as DD, and having fun, what size should I get?

Another question, how many miles would these last for?

Thanks again.

Rudy@tirerack

3rd July 2008, 14:46

Hello Rudy,

I have a 91 Miata (completely stock), and I was planning on buying 15x8 rota RB's. I do ~ 30% highway, 70% city driving. I'm looking for a dry/summer tire, because I have falken 912's on my 14's for "every other time but summer" (I'll ask you for an all-year-rounder another time). I do enjoy driving spiritedly (very spiritedly) on onramps and such - and would want to do an occasional (very occasional auto-x).

I'm looking for the grip of the Azenis, but from what I've read, it seems that the Hankook RS2's would be my best bet...? These tires range from 195's to 225's. My biggest question would be, as far as DD, and having fun, what size should I get?

Another question, how many miles would these last for?

Thanks again.

Hello! :wave:

Thank you for your question. I think the Hankook RS2 is a very good choice for a spirted daily driver. Better wear than the Azenis. I would guess you would get around 18k-22k out of these depending how much auto cross you do. Auto cross is very hard on tire wear.

Now here is where it gets interesting. A lot of the miata.net members have been ordering 225/45R15. This would be a good size for diamater. It would also fit an 8 inch rim perfect. You would be on your own with this fitment. The Tire Rack does not promise that will not rub. You may want to do a general post and find out if you have to make any modifications to the car like Fender rolling ect. I hope this helps some. Let me know if I can help you with an order.

turboedpickup

3rd July 2008, 18:45

Aside from the possibility of rubbing, would you still recommend these for daily driving?

Rudy@tirerack

4th July 2008, 01:23

Aside from the possibility of rubbing, would you still recommend these for daily driving?

For a very spirted driver and ocassional auto crosser this is probably the best tire for the money. Yes I recommend them for a daily driver with your needs.

lkeasyliving

26th July 2008, 17:35

Ok I need new ones because one tire picked up a nail to close to side to fix my tred is close to ware bars so insted of one need all fours,
So now have 195/50/15 toyo T1r
Just have fun with car go to gap once a year need a nice summer tire with stick, was thinking of same, In previous tires had Firestone ? 0s 3
Shoud I stick with Toyo or ?????

Rudy@tirerack

28th July 2008, 09:06

You may want to stick with the Toyo. They give a good wet/dry combo. I Highly recommend the Bridgestone RE-01R. This is an awesome tire. Here is a link to it on the website.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE-01R

Curtisc63

29th July 2008, 12:34

Rudy - thanks for taking the time to answer all the various questions people throw at you. Based on my research here, on your site, and elsewhere I was torn between a couple choices of tires. Reading this thread helped make my final choice - I am going with the General Exclaim UHP. Seems like a good tire for a very good price.

I just placed the order; gave you the nod on speaking with a rep - Rudy @ Miata.net - even though I have only read your comments.

Looking forward to mounting up the new shoes!

CC

Rudy@tirerack

29th July 2008, 12:40

Thanks for your order! I will make sure we email you a rebate form and extra invoice to send to General for the $50 Visa card :wave:

RoadsterRandy

31st July 2008, 15:06

Hello Rudy.....have you heard anything about cupping problems with the Goodyear F1 A/S tires? I was leaning toward them but......

Rudy@tirerack

1st August 2008, 08:19

The Goodyear Eagle F1 AS are a highly directional tread pattern. This means a V shaped tread pattern. The benefit to this type of design is it evacuates water away from the center of the tire very well. This type of design will give you the best hydroplaning resistance. Its also helps with snow/slush removal as well to help keep the tire planted to the road.

On some heavier cars that are unable to rotate the tires because of staggered sizes that run higher levels of negative camber this type of tire tends to see more issues with cupping.

For the Miata (lightweight) if your not running high levels of negative camber and you rotate the tires like you should you mostly likely will not have a problem. If you do run high levels of negative camber you may be better suited with either a tire thats not so highly directional or has a non directional tread pattern.

RoadsterRandy

4th August 2008, 15:57

Thanks Rudy....I don't run a lot of negative camber, as this is purely a street car....what do you think about sizes for the F1 AS on an NC? I was thinking 225/45/17......

Rudy@tirerack

4th August 2008, 19:01

As long as you rotate your tires as recommended I think this tire is a very good choice. ;)

kayaker1

6th August 2008, 19:16

Rudy, I know that TireRack doesn't handle Cooper the last time I checked but are these tires any good? Have an 01 LS, Live in the Midwest and drive summers only. Not a speedster, want quiet and some tread life. Any other suggestions? Thanks

Rudy@tirerack

6th August 2008, 20:00

Rudy, I know that TireRack doesn't handle Cooper the last time I checked but are these tires any good? Have an 01 LS, Live in the Midwest and drive summers only. Not a speedster, want quiet and some tread life. Any other suggestions? Thanks

I apologize, I just do not have any experience with this tire :( . I would recommend you post new thread for more info on this tire. I do not want to give you poor/bad info.

mojoinco

14th August 2008, 03:16

Hi,

1996 Miata here, going to install a Flyin Miata 2.5 suspension kit (lowered, higher spring rate, sway bars). Stock 14" aluminum wheels. Need warmer weather and rain tires, presumably in a 185 or 195 tire.

Your suggestions?

Also, I have recently replaced the tires on my motorcycle and had ceramic balancing beads installed. Seems to work well. Any input?

Thanks!

Rudy@tirerack

14th August 2008, 14:47

Hello in the 185/60R14 the Yokohama AVS ES100 would be a good choice.

Nuieve

18th August 2008, 22:14

Rudy, few questions:

1. Are there any new summer tires coming out soon?

2. Any news on availability and prices of Kumho XS?

3. Also, any rebates coming up on summer tires any time soon?

Maz

19th August 2008, 13:31

Rudy (or who ever may chime in, I do appreciate it), as stated I am coming from the Toyo's and wish to maybe go up a bit. First in size, I am thinking about the 205/50/15's. Ok with stock 99 AE wheels? And make... I see your page rates the Yoko S.drive as #1, though I don't see you recommending it to Miata drivers all that much. I like spirited driving, though no autocross/racing. I like a quiet tire, and a comfortable tire, as my T1-S's seem to be. I wouldn't mind a bit more 'connected' feel though. I never see snow, and rarely rain. And one last very personal item looks. I like a 'racy' looking tire, and maybe it's just me, but the General Exclaim UHP’s are getting a bit "knobby" looking. Maybe the pictures exaggerate it. Thanks.

Nuieve

19th August 2008, 13:55

Rudy (or who ever may chime in, I do appreciate it), as stated I am coming from the Toyo's and wish to maybe go up a bit. First in size, I am thinking about the 205/50/15's. Ok with stock 99 AE wheels? And make... I see your page rates the Yoko S.drive as #1, though I don't see you recommending it to Miata drivers all that much. I like spirited driving, though no autocross/racing. I like a quiet tire, and a comfortable tire, as my T1-S's seem to be. I wouldn't mind a bit more 'connected' feel though. I never see snow, and rarely rain. And one last very personal item looks. I like a 'racy' looking tire, and maybe it's just me, but the General Exclaim UHP’s are getting a bit "knobby" looking. Maybe the pictures exaggerate it. Thanks.

If you look at surveys you'll see that Yokos only have about 302k miles reported as compared to several million miles for other tires. And it's been at this number for few months (I wonder if tirerack stopped updating the ratings, or nobody buys/rates them anymore?) I think once the tire get a million-two miles reported it get a bit more accurate.

And if you look at General tests, you'll see that they're very poor summer tires. Right there on the bottom.

gtommers

19th August 2008, 14:21

Rudy (or who ever may chime in, I do appreciate it), as stated I am coming from the Toyo's and wish to maybe go up a bit. First in size, I am thinking about the 205/50/15's. Ok with stock 99 AE wheels? And make... I see your page rates the Yoko S.drive as #1, though I don't see you recommending it to Miata drivers all that much. I like spirited driving, though no autocross/racing. I like a quiet tire, and a comfortable tire, as my T1-S's seem to be. I wouldn't mind a bit more 'connected' feel though. I never see snow, and rarely rain. And one last very personal item looks. I like a 'racy' looking tire, and maybe it's just me, but the General Exclaim UHP’s are getting a bit "knobby" looking. Maybe the pictures exaggerate it. Thanks.

You need Hankook RS2 or Bridgestone RE-01Rs, trust me. The T1S/T1R kill the Miata fun factor with imprecise turn-in and little road feel. If you can afford the RE-01Rs ($115/tire) I would definitely suggest giving them a try. If you don't want to spent that much try the RS2s (~$80/tire).

I went from T1Rs to RE-01Rs and it totally transformed the handling of the car. Amazingly, the RE-01Rs are also very comfortable and quiet. The perfect Miata tire!!!

nope-mx5

19th August 2008, 14:59

Let`s see :)

01 sport, FM stage2 kit, polybushings front and rear, Harddog hardcore rollbar.
Need suggestions for both wheels and tires.

The car will be used for both trackdays, and daily driving.
My priorities are best grip in dry (and good in wet, as it`s a daily driver) :)

15" or 16" (8x15, 9x15 or 8x16), wheels need to be as light as possible (but not Volk TE37 expensive :) ).

Too bad tirerack dont sell 6UL wheels, that would be awesome.

in 16" I`ve been thinking of RPF1 8x16 and Toyo R1R, but since you dont sell Toyo, I need some good suggestions. (I`d like to run Toyo R888, as they are available in 225/45-15).

-n

Rudy@tirerack

19th August 2008, 19:20

Rudy, few questions:

1. Are there any new summer tires coming out soon?

2. Any news on availability and prices of Kumho XS?

3. Also, any rebates coming up on summer tires any time soon?

Unfortunately no new summer tires. The focus on summer tires is really about over. The promotions will be focused on Snow tires.

I really do not believe the KUHMO XS will be available until next spring.

Rudy@tirerack

19th August 2008, 19:22

You need Hankook RS2 or Bridgestone RE-01Rs, trust me. The T1S/T1R kill the Miata fun factor with imprecise turn-in and little road feel. If you can afford the RE-01Rs ($115/tire) I would definitely suggest giving them a try. If you don't want to spent that much try the RS2s (~$80/tire).

I went from T1Rs to RE-01Rs and it totally transformed the handling of the car. Amazingly, the RE-01Rs are also very comfortable and quiet. The perfect Miata tire!!!

+1

furai

2nd September 2008, 11:41

You need Hankook RS2 or Bridgestone RE-01Rs, trust me. The T1S/T1R kill the Miata fun factor with imprecise turn-in and little road feel. If you can afford the RE-01Rs ($115/tire) I would definitely suggest giving them a try. If you don't want to spent that much try the RS2s (~$80/tire).

I went from T1Rs to RE-01Rs and it totally transformed the handling of the car. Amazingly, the RE-01Rs are also very comfortable and quiet. The perfect Miata tire!!!

Here is my situation. I have a '90 with Yoko AVS ES100s that are quite warn. Also, the car has a complete Spec Miata suspension (and yes, a kidney belt would probably be a good idea :eek: ).

The car is my DD, and currently has a factory open-diff. The right-rear is now almost bald (but very evenly warn ;) ). It will be getting a torsen LSD and a roll bar and will see some HPDEs. While I'm new to Miatas, I club race a 1st-gen RX-7 and while I consider myself a very safe driver, the car is just too flat in the corners to creep around them. Also, I *do* tend to "enjoy" the on-ramps when they're empty.

Although the ES100s are noisy, they seem sticky and breakaway is gradual and controllable. So.....

1) I, too, was looking at the S.Drive. Would you still recommend the RE-01Rs?

2) What size do most people run in 15s? The current tires are 195/50-15s on (I believe) 15x7 wheels. The previous owner AutoXed and that may have prevented him from going wider.

Thanks, in advance!

capamando

3rd September 2008, 08:57

Hello,

I am just looking for a regular set of tires for my '96 Miata. I live in Florida lots of rain in the summer... I would also prefer a quieter ride. Any suggestions... Oh one more thing is Costco a good place to buy tires for my Miata?

Thanks

Rudy@tirerack

4th September 2008, 11:04

Hello,

I am just looking for a regular set of tires for my '96 Miata. I live in Florida lots of rain in the summer... I would also prefer a quieter ride. Any suggestions... Oh one more thing is Costco a good place to buy tires for my Miata?

Thanks

If your looking for more of a standard tire with good wet traction thats quiet I would recommend the General Altimax HP.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Altimax+HP

06-LE

4th September 2008, 12:07

I recently acquired a '06 Limited Edition 6MT that has Michelin Pilot Preceda 205/45/17 84W tires on it that are way past needing replacement. I believe this has a sport suspension package as stock. I went to my local tire shop and they told me that they don't make them anymore (confirmed by searching here) and recommended that I search Tire Rack (shocked me a bit I might add) as they were a preferred installer for TR and they couldn't offer me anything locally.

It is slowly becoming my daily driver since my other is a F-150 and gas is killing me. I drive it for top down fun and drive it pretty hard through corners and enjoy winding the gears pretty quickly off the line. ;) With the bald tires the ride is very rough and it's a slippery little devil when making fast turns.

I live in South Florida, so my requirements are:

1.) Wet weather grip. It rains hard and fast leaving lots of puddles. I don't want to worry about hydroplaning this car into a canal.
2.) Hot weather / dry road grip. Really hoping new tires will breath new life into the handling and responsiveness.
3.) Quiet/comfortable ride.

I really don't want to change the tire size (I want to keep the car as stock as possible since it is the LE) unless there is a compelling reason to do so. I'm not too worried about price so I'll entertain all reasonable ideas (not $500ea racing tires for example)

Thanks for the help!
~M~

*EDIT* Does not have TPMS and Run Flats aren't required.

Rudy@tirerack

4th September 2008, 12:26

Here is my situation. I have a '90 with Yoko AVS ES100s that are quite warn. Also, the car has a complete Spec Miata suspension (and yes, a kidney belt would probably be a good idea :eek: ).

The car is my DD, and currently has a factory open-diff. The right-rear is now almost bald (but very evenly warn ;) ). It will be getting a torsen LSD and a roll bar and will see some HPDEs. While I'm new to Miatas, I club race a 1st-gen RX-7 and while I consider myself a very safe driver, the car is just too flat in the corners to creep around them. Also, I *do* tend to "enjoy" the on-ramps when they're empty.

Although the ES100s are noisy, they seem sticky and breakaway is gradual and controllable. So.....

1) I, too, was looking at the S.Drive. Would you still recommend the RE-01Rs?

2) What size do most people run in 15s? The current tires are 195/50-15s on (I believe) 15x7 wheels. The previous owner AutoXed and that may have prevented him from going wider.

Thanks, in advance!

If your looking for the best dry traction and handling the Bridgestone is the way to go. They do not last long though 15 -18k. The Yokos are a good combination of dry,wet ride comfort and treadwear. It really depends on what your looking for.

miata_racer

4th September 2008, 17:37

What irritates me is the Kumho Ecsta SPT going away. That was THE best compromise of a tire made. They got great treadlife and the grip was good.

Any word on what they will release to replace it or when/?

When will the XS be arriving in the 205/50-15? Soon I hope?

Rudy@tirerack

5th September 2008, 10:50

06-LE - For you I would recommend the Bridgestone Potenza RE 760 SP or the Yokohama S Drive. Both are new technolgoy very good handling, wet traction and daily ride comfort. Here is a link to a test we did comparing these directly.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=104

Rudy@tirerack

5th September 2008, 10:53

What irritates me is the Kumho Ecsta SPT going away. That was THE best compromise of a tire made. They got great treadlife and the grip was good.

Any word on what they will release to replace it or when/?

When will the XS be arriving in the 205/50-15? Soon I hope?

The Kuhmo Ecsta Spt has not been discontinued as a tire. Only in your tire size. Its availiable in most other sizes at this time. You right about it being a well balanced tire.

The XS is replacing the Kuhmo Ecsta MX and not the SPT. Hey great news I got some in!!! You could be one of the first to get them!

miata_racer

5th September 2008, 14:54

I saw that today the 205s are in @ $97 each. :)

I gotta wait a week till I get to KS to figure out if I"m getting the XS or the 01Rs. Bridgestone usually has their truck there with some killer deals, but if not I'll be ordering next weekend :)

MX-5speed

5th September 2008, 22:15

Rudy -

I am looking to replace the stock Toyo's on my ‘05 MSM with a set of 215/40R17 summer tires (I already have an excellent snow tire package from tirerack). My car is a daily driver that I drive spiritedly on occasion. I would like a tire that matches the Toyo's grip in dry and wet conditions but one that produces less road noise. I would also like the tire to last a minimum of 25K.

Two tires that have caught my attention are the Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 and the Yokohama S. Drive. Both appear from testing and consumer reviews to be great tires, but I have concerns regarding each. I fear the Michelin won't meet my mileage needs with a UTQG rating of 240. With the Yokohama, I fear that I will loose in the handling department since the tire is listed as 22 lbs (23.8 lb on Yokohama's site) and the stock Toyo's are only 21 lb.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

MXHDROOM

9th September 2008, 13:25

Hi Rudy,

I just caught up with this thread now that I'm interested in new wheels and tires.

What's your learned opinion of the new TR Motorsports C1 wheel (ET30 I think) matched with a set of Falken Ziex 912s? Too much wheel and too little tire? I want to improve my handling somewhat (currently running stock suspension other than FM sways and RB end links) but I need decent wear, good wet weather traction, and perhaps the odd autocross thrown in for fun now and then. I'm also on a tight budget, as my better half thinks I spend too much on the car as it is!

Any advice appreciated; thanks in advance.

G.

Rudy@tirerack

9th September 2008, 13:47

Unfortunately the availability date on the TR Motorsports C1 has been pushed out untill October 15th, but I think this wheel will definately be worth the wait. Is this the tire you would need to run all year or do you have winter tires? I see your in Canada. I do not recommend all season for Autocross, but if this has to be your year around tire they will be ok. Let me know if you would like to order the wheels. Thanks!

MXHDROOM

9th September 2008, 14:03

Thanks Rudy!

No, I put the car away in mid-November and it doesn't see the light of day until late April. I would wait until "no-Miata" season to buy them anyway - a nice Christmas gift, so to speak.

I was also looking at Hankooks (RS-212) or Dunlops (Star Spec), but I wonder how they would be on wet roads? I don't drive very often in heavy rain, but I do get caught out now and then. Hydroplaning and I don't get along.

G.

OCG

9th September 2008, 15:33

My experience with the R-S2's in the rain is positive, way better grip than my previous Falken Azenis.

John_20902

9th September 2008, 18:03

Rudi,

After reading your thread I decided I wanted a set of Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Positions (185/60R14) to replace my Dunlop Sport A2's. The problem is that for the last month and a half the tires have been on back order from the factory. I noticed that the Dulops I currently have are also on back order.

I'm was trying to figure if it was worth waiting for the Bridgestones, but an email to the company netted me the response that they don't know when the tires will be available.

My 91 Miata is my daily driver from April through November in Minnesota. I don't drive it in the snow. The car is mostly stock. Weekends I drive the back roads along the rivers when possible. I was hoping to upgrade from the worn Dunlops in terms of performance on dry roads, but keep some wet traction for rainy commutes.

Sugestions?

Mr. Cranky

10th September 2008, 09:54

Rudi, If I remember correctly the new TR C1 wheel was also going to be avaliable in a 7.5" width. Will this size also be out by Oct/15? Do you have a weight for the wider version? Chuck

Rudy@tirerack

10th September 2008, 16:04

Thanks Rudy!

No, I put the car away in mid-November and it doesn't see the light of day until late April. I would wait until "no-Miata" season to buy them anyway - a nice Christmas gift, so to speak.

I was also looking at Hankooks (RS-212) or Dunlops (Star Spec), but I wonder how they would be on wet roads? I don't drive very often in heavy rain, but I do get caught out now and then. Hydroplaning and I don't get along.

G.

As already mentioned Hankooks are solid in the wet and the Dunlops are even a little better. Both would be fine though.

Rudy@tirerack

10th September 2008, 16:05

Hey everyone my name is RUDY. Lets get it right! :D :D :D :wave:

Rudy@tirerack

10th September 2008, 16:07

Rudi, If I remember correctly the new TR C1 wheel was also going to be avaliable in a 7.5" width. Will this size also be out by Oct/15? Do you have a weight for the wider version? Chuck

This is a spec miata wheel and is available only in the 1 size for miata:

15X7 ET30 weighst 13.1 lbs in a Carbon Grey finish only. They will be priced at $99 each.

Rudy@tirerack

10th September 2008, 16:10

Rudi,

After reading your thread I decided I wanted a set of Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Positions (185/60R14) to replace my Dunlop Sport A2's. The problem is that for the last month and a half the tires have been on back order from the factory. I noticed that the Dulops I currently have are also on back order.

I'm was trying to figure if it was worth waiting for the Bridgestones, but an email to the company netted me the response that they don't know when the tires will be available.

My 91 Miata is my daily driver from April through November in Minnesota. I don't drive it in the snow. The car is mostly stock. Weekends I drive the back roads along the rivers when possible. I was hoping to upgrade from the worn Dunlops in terms of performance on dry roads, but keep some wet traction for rainy commutes.

Sugestions?

The Bridgestones are very nice, but like you said backordered so they will be like 6-8 weeks away. The BF Goodrich Traction T/A is a good alternative and is solid in light snow good for all season. The Michelin Pilot Exalto AS is very good too , just a little more pricey.

JohnB3MX5

14th October 2008, 21:24

Rudy:

I have a relatively new ('08) PRHT GT with the factory Bridgestones (205/45-17's). I have never liked the idea of not having a spare. I don't see anyone here using runflats yet your site shows what appear to be several choices in the OEM size. The run flats on my Corvettes (Goodyears) have been great tires (although the Supercars have a relatively short treadlife span). I never had an issue with these tires. You have several all-season choices (which can be an advantage in St. Louis where it does get cold occasionally and we also get some snow). Although this car is not my DD (I have a Madza 3, 5-door for that), the all season tire is attractive, particularly because I will drive this car in cold weather. While I have a lead foot, I won't be tracking this car. Other than the fact that the run flats are typically more noisy, these Bridgestones aren't exactly quiet. Can you shed some light on this for me? Is there something unique to the MX5 that makes these a bad choice. I'm tempted to replace w/ runflats.

Rudy@tirerack

15th October 2008, 14:21

Rudy:

I have a relatively new ('08) PRHT GT with the factory Bridgestones (205/45-17's). I have never liked the idea of not having a spare. I don't see anyone here using runflats yet your site shows what appear to be several choices in the OEM size. The run flats on my Corvettes (Goodyears) have been great tires (although the Supercars have a relatively short treadlife span). I never had an issue with these tires. You have several all-season choices (which can be an advantage in St. Louis where it does get cold occasionally and we also get some snow). Although this car is not my DD (I have a Madza 3, 5-door for that), the all season tire is attractive, particularly because I will drive this car in cold weather. While I have a lead foot, I won't be tracking this car. Other than the fact that the run flats are typically more noisy, these Bridgestones aren't exactly quiet. Can you shed some light on this for me? Is there something unique to the MX5 that makes these a bad choice. I'm tempted to replace w/ runflats.

Keep in mind you will give up a lot of dry road grip going to a all season runflat , but if that is ok with you that sure it will work fine. I really do not think the runflat all season will be any harsher than the summer Bridgestone your using now. Please feel free to give me a call if I can be of assistance.

FormerDatsun510Man

4th November 2008, 08:30

Hi Rudy,

My BF Goodrich GForce Sports on my '00 Miata are worn beyond the wear bars in the rear so it is time for replacement. I drive my Miata quite spirited and have an FM springs/Bilstein shocks. It used to be supercharged making 240rwhp, but I am now back to more economical NA operation. Overall, of all the tires I have had on the car I like the GForce the best (OE, Kumho MX, Dunlop SP9000). I found that the GForce lasted the longest while also giving outstanding wet and dry grip, and also very importantly to me, had very sharp on center feel like the OE Michelins that came on the car. However, my criteria for my replacement tires has changed a bit. Specifically:

1) I would like them to last longer. Looks like about 20K is about the most I can expect out of a High Performance Summer tire. Now I am looking for something that would give me at least 30-40K miles. I realize I would probably need to change to a different class of tire, which for me is not a problem as long as it still has good on center feel (one of the most important things I think in a Miata tire). In other words I don't want a mushy tire. Prior tires choices were made because I would use the same tires for track days. I am now using a separate set of tires for track days (Azeni 615), so my performance requirements for street tires is relaxed... as long as they don't feel mushy and they are fitting for a Miata driver who drives spirited.

2) I would also like it if the tire were a bit quieter and more comfortable than the high performance tires I used in the past.

3) I would like the performance to remain consistent as the tire ages. On all the performance tires I have used the grip deteriated after about 10K miles, though the BF Goodrich Gforces did the best in this respect.

4) Most important grip aspect for these would be wet weather. Here in New Orleans wet weather is what I most encounter and I feel on a street tire the most important grip is the most inclement conditions you deal with. However, I also want these tires to be able to handle light snow and cold conditions if my travels take me through areas like that. I am not expecting snow tires :), and I don't expect them to take me through a blizzard, but I just want to feel confident they would not leave me stranded. I felt a bit nervous a couple years back when I was going through Colorado right when the snow season was starting on my Gforces. If I lived in the snowbelt I would definitely get a set of dedicated snow tires, but being in the south I can't justify this.

5) Price under $100 and preferably under $80.

Tall order eh? :D

So far I am sort of caught between All-Seasons and Summer tires. Based on the tire reviews and price considerations, I am led to the following:

General Exclain UHP, Yokohama S drive, Sumitomo HTR 200 on the high performance summer end

Kumho AST and Yokohama Avid T4 for all seasons (note: the Yokohama Avid interests me based on the long lasting life I see in the reviews along with its good all around performance... would it give me reasonably spirited performance?)

I even am considering a Grand Touring tire, the Kumho Solus KH16, based on idea that it would be a comfortable and quiet tire that lasts a long time and also grips in all seasons reasonably well. My concern I suppose is if it would destroy the Miata fun?

If you have other better suggestions I am open to them of course. Note, my tire size is 195/50R15 as I am on stock 15" wheels. I don't want to go to 205/50R15. I would be willing to go to 195/55R15 though.

Thanks,
Bill

Rudy@tirerack

4th November 2008, 16:31

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the very detailed questions. This helps me make a better recommendation. Based on everything your looking for I really do not know thats its possible, but if I were you I would try the General Eclaim UHP.

I believe if you not to hard on them they will last 30k+. While dry grip is down from the G-Force they are still a good dry tire with a better ride and will have better hydro planning resistance.

Hope this helps!

FormerDatsun510Man

4th November 2008, 18:08

Thanks! I ordered them from Tirerack and mentioned miata.net in the comments.

Bill

Slartibartfast

6th November 2008, 11:47

Dang, I forgot about Rudy's presence here when I ordered some tires via Web Monday. So, I forgot to mention Miata.net. I should poke around the site and see if I can still do so.

BTW, ordered a set of Dunlop Direzza Star Spec 235/40-17 on Monday, they were at my doorstep Wednesday. They even called me to make sure I ordered correctly since the Dunlops were significantly different from the recommended tire size. Too bad the Kazera KZ-M isn't offered in 17x8, I would have orderd a set.

I've been using Tire Rack for nearly a decade now and have NEVER been disappointed.

Rudy@tirerack

6th November 2008, 15:41

Hi! Thanks for your business. If you want to send me a PM with the order # I will make sure the forum gets credit. Your going to love :D :D :D that new star spec tire by the way.

hubotu

11th November 2008, 22:58

Hi Rudy,

I have a stock 92 DD. My priority, by far, is QUIET! Of course all other parameters are of interest (price, ride, handling, longevity, blah blah blah). But my priority is QUIET!
What do you recommend?

Thanks,

babytaz911

12th November 2008, 12:25

I have a 2006 Grand Touring MX-5. This car is driven everyday and I am looking for a tire that gives some perfomance but also will deliver a decent tire life. I have 26,0000 on the current tires. they are RFT and I don't know if I should stay with the RFT or go to another tire. Whats your thoughts and recommendation??????
Like anybody else, don't want to buy tires every 2 years.

Rudy@tirerack

12th November 2008, 12:37

Hi Rudy,

I have a stock 92 DD. My priority, by far, is QUIET! Of course all other parameters are of interest (price, ride, handling, longevity, blah blah blah). But my priority is QUIET!
What do you recommend?

Thanks,

Hi,

There are 2 tires I would recommend:

1. Michelin Pilot Exalto AS
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position.

The Michelins are the Quietest so would get my #1 recommendation in this case. Please let me know if I can help you with an order.

Rudy@tirerack

12th November 2008, 13:02

I have a 2006 Grand Touring MX-5. This car is driven everyday and I am looking for a tire that gives some perfomance but also will deliver a decent tire life. I have 26,0000 on the current tires. they are RFT and I don't know if I should stay with the RFT or go to another tire. Whats your thoughts and recommendation??????
Like anybody else, don't want to buy tires every 2 years.

Hi,

Since you do not have a spare tire its hard for me to make the decision. If you looking for a longer wearing runflat. I would look to the Conti Pro Contact SSR which has a 40,000 mile tread wear.

If you went to a Non Run Flat Tire I would go with the Bridgestone G019 Grid which is a very good tire with a 50,000 mile tread wear warranty.

I would personally go with the Conti Runflat seems to be one of the better runflats at this time.

naylor99

14th November 2008, 00:51

I am looking for new tires for my 2006 GT MX5. I live in Dallas, and also have a truck, so 'snow' is not an issue. It DOES get cold here, so I do not want pure summer tires either. I want good traction, good wet traction, and QUIET as possible. I am replacing the stock Precedas. They have about 22k on them, and I might be able to squeeze another few k out of them - but they seem to be getting harder and louder. I think they were OK, but loud. I drive 'fun' but nothing extreme, and no racing.

From what I have looked at so far, I like the 215/45ZR17
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position. I'd like to get some other suggestions so I can make a comparison.

Thanks!

LarryB

22nd December 2008, 03:17

I just bought a set of Nippon 15 X 6.5 Wheels, weighing about 13 lbs

I have a 97, with AGX shocks, , RB Sways, FM Springs, FCM bumpstops/ spacers.

I currently have the Hankook RS-2 on the original 14" wheels. I live in the SF, which has lousy roads, and I'm tired of being pulled all over the place by every rut and pothole, which started when I switched from the Falken Ziex 512s. I drive aggressively on the weekends, but do not track the car. I'd like some more mileage out of my tire - I've gotten about 13,000 on my Hankooks. I'd like to keep the tires to $75 or less (less is better). I'm not sure whether I should get 195/50/15s or 205/50/15s. Ideas that have come up have are the Falken 912s, BFG G-Sports or General UHPs, but I'm open to other ideas.

Thanks, I appreciate your thoughts.

Larry

Rudy@tirerack

22nd December 2008, 18:43

I am looking for new tires for my 2006 GT MX5. I live in Dallas, and also have a truck, so 'snow' is not an issue. It DOES get cold here, so I do not want pure summer tires either. I want good traction, good wet traction, and QUIET as possible. I am replacing the stock Precedas. They have about 22k on them, and I might be able to squeeze another few k out of them - but they seem to be getting harder and louder. I think they were OK, but loud. I drive 'fun' but nothing extreme, and no racing.

From what I have looked at so far, I like the 215/45ZR17
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position. I'd like to get some other suggestions so I can make a comparison.

Thanks!

Hello,

I would probably go with the Bridgestone Pole Position myself, but as a good comparision take a look at the Yokohama Advan S4

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